Are we a violent culture?

Many of our entertainment venues are violence filled. We have vastly more armaments than any other nation. Many Americans feel the need to be armed and to stockpile ammunition. We engage in foreign conflicts with depressing regularity.

Mass shootings have become daily occurances and we respond by buying more weapons. Not only are we a violent culture,we are growing more violent.

To suggest that guns are part of the problem,not part of the solution,is to be shouted down. Better to let the gun crowd find a solution for violence. It's their culture.

Where does this cartoon say that guns are the problem? Guns are not the problem, crazy people are.

I don't think that all the facts are yet known, but there is certainly no shortage of speculation ongoing at the moment. It's been quite a few weeks since the media has had something to roll the trucks to, to exploit for viewer ratings.

If what we are hearing about this man is close to being correct, the man responsible for this act of terrorism is one of our own, home grown mental midgets.

If some of the speculation and reporting is also correct, then the military is responsible for this nutbar, who has strong religious beliefs in some of the extremist teachings of Islam. It doesn't look very good for our military to discover that while in the process of deploying men and women to a region where we are fighting Islamic extremists, that a recently promoted officer shares some of the same religious beliefs as those we are current fighting at the moment.

It has to be embarrassing for the military as well, to have the media out this man in less than 24 hours, for what he was and has expressed to others who worked alongside him.

But then, he was born in Virginia. He attended Virginia Tech. Who would have had cause to consider him to be anything less than an American?

What leads someone to draw a weapon and to kill as many innocent lives as possible in a short span of time, in my opinion, will never be understood or explained. Clearly, anyone who would commit such an act, has a brain that is not firing on all cylinders.

I dare say that more lives have been taken in this world throughout it's existence, over religious difference, than those that have been taken for any other reason that can ever be cited.

Spree murderers are not always acts of religious imbalance. Just yesterday, a man stormed an office in Orlando, Florida, then shot six people, killing one of them because he was fired two years prior for what was alleged to be poor job performance, and the man blamed the employer for his current economic woes in life. While being arrested a short time after he fled the scene, he was apologizing to officers for what he had done.

Given that there are hundreds of thousands of people who are in similar situations as this man was, none of us are very safe at the moment, if we work where others once did.

There are a bunch of frustrated, angry, and depressed people in this country at the moment. Not only are there those whose world has been turned upside down due to the economy, we have people who are frustrated because our political leaders are failing to do anything productive, other than to argue amongst themselves.

Maybe it's time to build an Ark again.

Alprova, the only problem I see with your solution(?) is who gets to board the Ark?
Who will make that decision?
Do we do the 2by2 thing again? It worked out so well the last time.
Do we include Conservatives and Liberals? How about Independents?
Will it just be Christians, or will there be a mix of all religions?

Alprova, I usually agree with you on most of your posts, but I have to believe you may have overstepped your bounds this time.
I mean, remember, it wasn't Noah who made the decision the last time around.
Maybe we just need to wait a little longer to see how it all 'plays out'.
I know that is a depressing thought, but we have to keep in mind, we are not in charge of anything except our own actions.
And that's a handful all by itself.

Thank you for your time and attention,
Woody

Woody, I don't think alprova was serious about the Ark.

I think his comments are exactly to the point. He highlights the difficulty we have in dealing with situations like this.

We can try to act very pro-actively to try to prevent events like this, but there is a cost. I remember after Columbine seeing many stories about kids suspended from schools for things like drawing a picture of a gun.

After 911, many Americans were willing to surrender their liberties.

Hitler was able to rise to power because of the deprivations experienced by Germany after WWI.

We have to be careful that we react, without over-reacting and inflicting more harm on ourselves or the world around us.

This man was clearly very mentally disturbed. But most people who are mentally disturbed don't go on rampages like this one.

Were there tell-tale signs that something like this could happen? It seems so. But then I think of friends of mine who have suffered episodes of depression. After one committed suicide, the tell-tale clues seemed to grow in magnitude, but was that only because of what transpired afterwards?

I don't know nearly all the details of this man's life. I haven't read his writings. I heard that he at least believed in the concept of jihad. While there are peaceful Muslims who say that jihad is supported by the Koran, I do think the milatary should investigate its personel who are known to espouse this belief.

Maj Hasan,an army psychiatrist,knew all too well the emotional devastation that occurs in a high percentage of those we send into war zones. His job was to treat PTS and other war related mental conditions. He may have had an overwhelming fact based fear of deploying to a pointless war.

We all have a breaking point,we just hope we don't reach it.

What happened to OBama pulling our troops out and bringing everybody home to little pink houses? Oh, I remember.....that was just a bunch of whiney liberal spew to get elected. Now the reality of the world is with us. OBama is going to go down in history as "Jimmy Carter II"
The only "CHANGE" you'll see is the quarter and two dimes that represent your 401K by the time he leaves office.

It is too bad that all except one of the victims was disarmed due to military regulations. What would have happened if the first target would have returned fire. How many lives could have been saved.

It is a sad commentary on how naive our culture has grown when one Islamic nutbag can accomplish so much havoc against military personnel due to them being disarmed.

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Where are all the voices repudiating Islamic teachings as inciting those with a loose screw or two into committing violent acts against innocent citizens?

If this guy had been a Christian fundamentalist or had been shouting "Don't tread on me" the ideology would be under attack. But Islam? "Allah Akbar" ("Allah is greater" than all the other gods)?

Nothing to see here, move along folks.

Islam is a murder cult and should be wiped from the face of the earth.

I was pretty sure alprova had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek when he wrote about the Ark, but I still felt the need to take it a step further. If only to shine a light on some of our more recent controversies, such as this past week's Maine decision.

It appears as though, the farther along we go the harder the trek becomes. This old world of ours has evolved from a mere "Garden" with one man, one woman and a snake (if one believes in the Bible) to same-sex couples, a multi-cultured space station and extremists re-writing their own sacred words in order to justify their destructive ways.

And yet, I go back to what I said before. We are in charge of nothing more than our own actions. It hasn't changed in however long this old rock has been inhabited and will not as long as we are allowed to be here.

Otherwise, all we can possibly hope for is the knowledge and common sense to keep ourselves and those we love safe and sound until the world finally finds the peace it so deservedly desires and needs.

Thank you again for your time and attention,
Woody

Political correctness and tolerance for all, no matter how radical, now trumps our ability to maintain traditional American values, sadly even in the military. I wonder how long a Major in the U.S. Army would have been allowed to espouse support and sympathy for the Nazis or Imperial Japan during W.W.II before being dealt with.
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alprova wrote: "It has to be embarrassing for the military as well, to have the media out this man in less than 24 hours, for what he was and has expressed to others who worked alongside him."

Finally, the media has done what it's supposed to do; investigate and report.

Too bad, with the exception of Fox News, the media has consistently failed to out any of the other extremely dangerous, anti-American people in our country for what they are and what they have expressed to others who work alongside them and the damage they intend to inflict on all of us.

Let's see, Vann Jones, Cass Sunstein, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayres, Anita Dunn, Valerie Jarrett, George Soros, Mark Lloyd, etc., etc., none of whom would have been exposed for their radical influence on our President (who himself was given a pass by the media) were it not for Fox News. Small wonder Obama doesn't want other news outlets to follow in their footsteps.

Lightnup....I agree 100% on the FOX News comment. However, it has been refreshing to see a gleamer of hope at other networks.

Campbell Brown with CNN: http://current.com/11lqi4c

FINALLY, "lightnup" gives a mentally stable perspective of why this tragedy happened!
Comments about the response after the Christian kids were SINGLED OUT, gunned down, and IGNORED BY THE MEDIA at Columbine HS by a couple of classmates whose parents were Democratic Party officers in Jefferson County; as well as citing the rise of the National Socialist German Labor Party as a response to be avoided-- are too late! We've already turned that corner towards NAZIism LAST YEAR!
Major Hasan had been begged BY HIS OWN FAMILY not to enlist! (his cousin Nader Hasan on FNC)He knew as a Psyciatrist that the MOST EFFECTIVE PLACE to carry out a terrorist attack would be where people feel SAFEST -- Even an "idiot" like me can figure that out! Tolerance is only given to those who are DEPRAVED in this country, not to the compassionate! They seem to be vilified!

Alprove - your comment was so spot on I won't pick on you about the Ark :)

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/...

So Hasan was a Virginia Tech alumnus... Hm-m-m. He evidently likes gun-free zones...made his "job" easier.

Now if only that cop had stayed home that day...thank God she WAS there, armed, and an experienced shooter. Pity she didn't double-tap the murdering pig. No virgins for him.

Rolando,

Yes, too bad the murdering jihadi didn't get his head made into a canoe.

There seems to be some disagreement over who actually dropped him.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarti...

Scotty wrote: "Where are all the voices repudiating Islamic teachings as inciting those with a loose screw or two into committing violent acts against innocent citizens?"

I don't like doing this, but I'm going to flip that one on you by asking where are all the fine Christians repudiating the acts of those who kill in the name of their God? How many people, in mass have spoken out against those who have killed family planning clinic workers?

I mean, lets face some facts here. Anyone who takes the life of another, with the exception of any clear cut case of self-defense, is a murderer...plain and simple. If we cite religious texts, not one of them condones murder.

One of two things explains both groups do not speak out in high numbers when these things occur. Either they consider religious murderers to not be a part of their group, or they do consider them a very welcome participant and thus, silently condone these murderous acts. And I'm very sorry, but you do not get to apply one standard to one and not to the other.

I've read many Christian forums and still do, and I'm constantly amazed to read some of the things that I do. will never forget some of the comments I read around the time that Dr. George Tiller was gunned down while attending services in his church on May 31, 2009. The comments written by many people, claiming to be upstanding "Christians," would make your hair stand straight up, that is unless you are of the opinion that the man needed to be killed for performing abortions.

There are credible estimates that claim that in this country, there are between 2.5 million and 4.75 million Muslims in this country. If their religion was a "murderous cult" as you claim, then I'm sure that you will have no problem citing some proof that Muslims in this nation have killed in higher numbers than those who have killed while claiming to be Christians.

You can't do it.

Researchers have estimated that around 5,000 lynchings took place in 10 southern states during the more active years that the KKK ran amok, thumping Bibles routinely while they did it. I've never taken notice of any widespread effort to condemn those who took it upon themselves to cite the name of God and to commit atrocities that I think we should all agree, that had nothing to do with religion at all.

It's just as unfair to blame the all of the peaceful Muslims throughout our world for the acts of a very slim minority, as it is for me to point out the fact that there are plenty of examples of self-proclaiming Christians who have committed equally heinous acts of murder. If you step back into history a few hundred years, Christians killed thousands, if not tens of thousands at a time, to force an acceptance of their particular beliefs.

Woody wrote: Alprova, the only problem I see with your solution(?) is who gets to board the Ark?
Who will make that decision?"

Well...it was my idea, so shouldn't I get to decide that if I go to all the trouble to build it?
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"Do we do the 2by2 thing again? It worked out so well the last time."

Sure...why not? But I would include more people this time, and they may not all be paired as male/female.
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"Do we include Conservatives and Liberals? How about Independents?"

For sure, but no worldly possessions would be allowed on board.
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"Will it just be Christians, or will there be a mix of all religions?"

I am a fan of all kinds of religions and happen to think that they all have their good and bad points. I do not happen to think that there is one perfect and chosen religion. So, the answer to your question is that a mix of religions represented would be best.

Lightnup wrote: "Finally, the media has done what it's supposed to do; investigate and report."

I think that for the most part, Fox News especially, went straight to rushing to judgment and calling for an execution. In 24 hours, there have so many retractions and changes regarding to what happened, that my head is spinning.
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"Too bad, with the exception of Fox News, the media has consistently failed to out any of the other extremely dangerous, anti-American people in our country for what they are and what they have expressed to others who work alongside them and the damage they intend to inflict on all of us."

Blah...blah...blah.......blah...........blah.

Here...watch this video and see how silly some of you are when you make mindless claims about all the "dangerous" people in the world.

It's a nice lesson in being careful when you throw stones when living in glass houses.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcal...

Christians need not speak out, alprova. After all, OUR God tells us to "turn the other cheek", NOT "chop off their head".

According to your lights, we should tell our fellow Christians that God tells us NOT to forgive but to murder those who speak out or act out against us...wrong!

So why are you expressing empathy for and defending the radical, murdering SOPig jihadists in this way? You don't do that for Americans who defend OUR way of life. Would you feel the same compassion and show the same concern for this killer had he murdered 12 women and wounded 30 of their children?

ricardo, you are spot on with your 7:09AM post.

Rolando, alprova wasn't defending muderous Muslims, nor was he saying he agreed with Muslims who support jihad.

He simply challenged the notion that American Muslims in particular are more violent than Christians.

He further noted that many people have (and do still) justified terrible crimes while evoking the Bible.

I noticed you did not debate any of his assertions, rather you made a judgement about him and assumed that he was defending this kind of action.

If you disagree with him, attack his assertions. Otherwise, you're just attacking the man. I've learned to expect better arguments from you. Perhaps you're just tired from watching as much football as I have today.

Thanks for the Politico.com cite, alprova...although I am unsure what a discussion on health care has to do with a cowardly jihadist pig shooting up defenseless people.

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In any case, I found this most appropriate comment there from someone named "Constitution Forever":

"Tancredo needs to learn the Democrats Alinsky "style" of response. Deny, Decieve [sic], and Destroy. It usually works for them. Then, you don't have to respond to the facts and everything gets glazed over in a confrontation and the original question is forgotten amidst the flurry. Happens every time."

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We see a lot of that on THIS forum, too. Time I started practicing it more often...as I recall it worked well on someone last time I tried it. :o)

Rolando offered: "Christians need not speak out, alprova. After all, OUR God tells us to "turn the other cheek", NOT "chop off their head"."

Well then, clearly there are quite a few Christians out there who do not follow that particular directive. I'd say that most of them plant both cheeks in the face of others quite often and quite forcefully.
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"According to your lights, we should tell our fellow Christians that God tells us NOT to forgive but to murder those who speak out or act out against us...wrong!"

Hhhmmm....I know you don't write English. Now I question whether or not you can read it. If you would put down the Jack Daniel bottle once in awhile, you might just understand that I wrote nothing of the sort.
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So why are you expressing empathy for and defending the radical, murdering SOPig jihadists in this way?"

When did I defend anyone who murders another? I didn't.

What I will not do, that a couple of you have done, is to hold every Muslim responsible for the act of radicals who consider themselves to be part of any mainstream religion.
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"You don't do that for Americans who defend OUR way of life. Would you feel the same compassion and show the same concern for this killer had he murdered 12 women and wounded 30 of their children?"

Again Rolando, I have in no manner defended this man, nor anything he has done. I have stated that not all the facts are known at this time and that is still the case, 48 hours after the fact. The military is keeping a very tight lid on what happened, but that has not stopped the press from exploring every possible Islamic tie-in that can be exploited to keep people tuned in and foaming at the mouth.

I refuse to blame all Muslims for this man's actions. I will not hold an entire religion responsible for the acts of any radicals, who choose to kill in the name of Allah. At the same time, I personally will not hold all Christian's feet to the fire for the actions of a minority of those who have killed in the name of their God. It's called putting things into perspective, rather than to blow it all out of proportion.

moonpie -- I appreciate your defense of both me and alprova [providing an excuse, etc]. But I don't need it. It is more than a little difficult to get through his posts and I tend to skip over them.

First, my answer was on-topic -- Christians do not support mass murderers, through silence or any other way; American Muslims do, as they do worldwide. Neither do our groups tend to "speak out in church" against most anything -- that is not an appropriate forum for those discussions...THIS is an appropriate one. Alprova was making a political point in defense of the murderer; indirectly, perhaps, but still there. I objected to his remark.

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"I mean, lets face some facts here. Anyone who takes the life of another, with the exception of any clear cut case of self-defense, is a murderer...plain and simple. If we cite religious texts, not one of them condones murder."

Taking a life in the line of duty, by military or civilian authority, is never murder...not even in the bible. Hasan's action was hardly in the line of duty and constitutes murder.

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"If you step back into history a few hundred years, Christians killed thousands, if not tens of thousands at a time, to force an acceptance of their particular beliefs."

Something we stopped doing about 700 years ago...the Muslims are STILL doing it. In any case that does NOT condone what Hasan did nor does it constitute a defense.

No, i do not omit the Africans, the Aztecs, et al, nor the Amer-Inds. That was done for profit or slave labor...completely different issue, horrible as it was. Religion didn't enter into it except as a pretext. Those are universals and part of the human psyche [or whatever].

Moonpie, the post was full of hooey, grandiose verbology [of which I am equally guilty to a degree]. Free speech has responsibility; other people's free speech.

It has been a long and difficult day [ever bathe and de-flea three cats?)

"It has been a long and difficult day [ever bathe and de-flea three cats?)"

Got Band-aids?

Alprova,

The point I was making was that when an anti-abortion extremist kills, the entire anti-abortion movement is condemned. When a right-wing extremist kills, everyone to the right of Joe Lieberman is condemned. But when an Islamic nut job goes on a killing spree, Islam is carefully excluded as are other Muslims.

If you go back and read what I posted, I stated that Islam should be wiped from the Earth. I made no statement about the brain washed masses who follow the teachings of a mad man who believed a pagan moon god was whispering in his ear.

It is no wonder Muslim extremists do things that the western mind sees as crazy. Crazy is baked into the religion.

I'll just throw this out there..... without knowing where it will land or how it will be interpreted.

Athiests don't always have the best humanitarian records, either. I'm thinking of Stalin and Hitler.

I think the main problem is intolerance and rigidity of thought.

Just because a person self-proclaims him/herself a Christian does not make him one. It is not that simple.

Re-read your own posts, alprova. You try to gain sympathy for a Muslim mass murderer [that is, you DEFEND him] by appealing to the Christianity of your audience. Wrong. Appeal to the Muslim audience to speak up and condemn this murderer and the radical bible he follows [by whatever name].

So you would not find a bigamist guilty solely because he follows a radical form of the Bible? How about snake-handling? Do you speak out against that in YOUR church? [Assuming you have one.] Speaking in tongues, perhaps? Think again about what you wrote above.

So long as the Muslim world chooses to remain silent regarding their radical members' criminal actions here and fail to speak out against them, under our law they could be considered accessories after the fact. Think about that one.

You tend to confuse "kill" with "murder" and mix them up in a sentence; they are not the same thing. You should know that already since you are so knowledgeable of the English language. If you mean kill, say it. If you mean murder, say IT.

Finally, of course you defended Hasan...you just hide behind your holier-then-thou verbiage and pretend you didn't. Implying something, by word or deed, is the same as saying it.

yeah, SCOTTYM, the kind with little stars on them -- leftovers from the grandkiddies visit.

Luckily only one of the cats has front claws.

Good clarification Scotty.

Rolando, a lot of Muslims condemn the ugly actions of extremists within the umrella of Islam.

I have seen parts of the Koran that say non Muslims should be put to the sword. Many Muslims pay as much attention to that as today's Christians pay to Leviticus. If any of you stoned an adulterer today, please tell me and I'll reconsider.

Scotty wrote: "The point I was making was that when an anti-abortion extremist kills, the entire anti-abortion movement is condemned. When a right-wing extremist kills, everyone to the right of Joe Lieberman is condemned. But when an Islamic nut job goes on a killing spree, Islam is carefully excluded as are other Muslims."

Your perception may not necessarily be reality. And I'm sorry, but anti-abortionists bring heat on themselves for the way they tend to cheer when any family planning clinic employee or doctor is murdered. I have read very few condemnations of those acts, as I stated earlier.
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"If you go back and read what I posted, I stated that Islam should be wiped from the Earth. I made no statement about the brain washed masses who follow the teachings of a mad man who believed a pagan moon god was whispering in his ear."

And your point is....? To Islamics, agnostics, all the way to those who worship the dark lords, they might find the story that God impregnated the virgin Mary from the heavens above just as implausible and quite laughable. It's a feat that certainly has not and likely will not ever be proven or explained, that's for sure.
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"It is no wonder Muslim extremists do things that the western mind sees as crazy. Crazy is baked into the religion."

Zealots come from all religious sects, and we most certainly have our own nutbars here in the western hemisphere. You're in complete denial if you fail to understand that despite your embracing of traditional Christianity, there are plenty who claim to be your brother and sister, who are just as radical, just as dangerous, and are just as likely to explode and murder as those of other religions.

Too many already have, or do you fail to recognize and admit that indisputable fact? The fact that these acts are not committed by loosely organized radicals in mass numbers doesn't diminish my argument. Whether it's one gun raised, killing one at a time, or a hundred guns raised killing 10 at a time, they are still murderous acts.

Alprova,

"You're in complete denial if you fail to understand that despite your embracing of traditional Christianity, there are plenty who claim to be your brother and sister, who are just as radical, just as dangerous, and are just as likely to explode and murder as those of other religions."

Please show where, in any of my 400+ posts on this site, I've embraced any religion. Good luck. You'll never find it, because it doesn't exist.

I live by the idea of treating others as I'd like to be treated. Yes I realize that this idea is integrated into the Christian theology, but I am in no way a believer in supernatural beings. I roll my eyes at a lot of faith based ideas.

That said, pointing fingers at Christians in order to equate the very few murderous nutballs in their midst with the mass murder committed globally on a nearly daily basis by Islamic extremists is simply absurd.

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Major Nidal Hasan M.D.

An officer and a gentleman was injured while partaking in a preemptive* attack.

Get Well Soon Major Nidal

We Love You

http://www.revolutionmuslim.com/

Hey look, the guy is being held up as a hero. How nice.

Rolando wrote: "Just because a person self-proclaims him/herself a Christian does not make him one. It is not that simple."

Allow me to apply your logic equally and fairly.

Just because a person murders 13 people and wounds three dozen others, who happens to be a self-proclaimed Muslim, it does not make every other Muslim...a radical Muslim. It's not that simple.
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"Re-read your own posts, alprova. You try to gain sympathy for a Muslim mass murderer [that is, you DEFEND him] by appealing to the Christianity of your audience. Wrong. Appeal to the Muslim audience to speak up and condemn this murderer and the radical bible he follows [by whatever name]."

Mr. Potato Head (KNOCK KNOCK!), I have not attempted in the slightest to defend him or anyone else who takes it upon themselves to raise a gun and to take an innocent life.

I am merely pointing out that it is extremely unfair to blame ALL Muslims for the actions of those who choose to call themselves Muslims who then go on to commit atrocious acts of murder.

You posted a couple of hours ago that Christians didn't need to apologize for those who claim to be Christian and take other lives by murdering them, so why would I in any manner agree with any premise of yours, that Muslims should be urged to speak out against nutbars that claim to be one of them?
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"So you would not find a bigamist guilty solely because he follows a radical form of the Bible? How about snake-handling? Do you speak out against that in YOUR church? [Assuming you have one.] Speaking in tongues, perhaps? Think again about what you wrote above."

I respect the right of all people to hold the religious beliefs they desire.

I don't care if a man takes a hundred wives, so long as each wife consents to such an arrangement and is of legal age to give such consent. If someone wants to handle a snake as part of a religious ceremony, more power to them. If someone feels compelled to speak in tongues, ditto.
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"So long as the Muslim world chooses to remain silent regarding their radical members' criminal actions here and fail to speak out against them, under our law they could be considered accessories after the fact. Think about that one."

When every anti-abortionist who called Scott Roeder a hero for killing Dr. George Tillman back in May, is arrested, charged, and convicted of being accessories after the fact in that murder, then come back at me with that silly tripe of arresting people for being silent.

You might have a shot at convincing me that you have a somewhat valid point to make.

Scotty wrote: "Please show where, in any of my 400+ posts on this site, I've embraced any religion. Good luck. You'll never find it, because it doesn't exist."

My apologies Scotty. I did make a presumption of association without all the facts in evidence.

Scotty, four guys standing on a street corner in New York City, who also erect a website littered with any video on the planet that gives them the time of day, doth not a conspiracy make.

I watched this report three times last evening on CNN.

I'm glad you offered a link to that video, even though I had to take a shower after viewing it on their site. CNN did a fine job of illustrating the fact that 4,000 Muslims visit the Mosque nearby, where these four men spend their days shouting at anyone that passes by.

4,000 PEACEFUL Muslims go every to that Mosque every day. Repeat that sentence until you understand it.

Look, I get it. Islam is a very foreign conceptualized religion to many people. It contains some very strange rituals and stringent routines that must be followed. It consists of chanting in a foreign language. It is nothing at all like Christianity.

Some people cannot deal with anything that they do not understand. Their method of dealing with it is to want to keep it as far away from themselves as possible. They'd prefer to have the religion abolished from this country.

It's not going to happen.

I've encountered literally hundreds of Muslims over my years, and not one has ever so much as attempted make me a convert.

On the other hand, I've encountered thousands of Christians who have wasted no time in wanting to make me a convert to their particular set of core beliefs, the second that they discover that I hold different beliefs from themselves.