published Monday, July 30th, 2012

Don't back GOP's hateful agenda and other Letters to the Editors

Don't back GOP's hateful agenda

This newspaper is complicit in the lie that voter fraud is widespread in this country. The truth is that voter fraud is miniscule, but to the extent it does exist, it is perpetuated by politicians. Case in point: The illegitimate presidency of George W. Bush. Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney inflicted much damage and shame not only on the country but the world.

This ruse as it pertains to voter fraud is just another attempt to defeat this country's first African-American president.

For three and one half years, much has been distorted (to put it kindly). Government takeover of health care is one example. You and I know that private insurance companies are sadly still in charge.

Almost daily you print some variation on how this president is taxing us to death. You and I know tax rates are the lowest in over 40 years. I urge all fair-minded people to speak out against the distortions and lies. Don't just call yourself Christian, act like one. Read the red in the Bible. Please do not support the hateful and hate-filled agenda of the GOP.

GARY KNOWLES, Ringgold, Ga.

Fox routinely misleads viewers

There has been much fake outrage about a speech President Obama gave in which he said, "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

The usual disinformation provided by Fox conveniently left out the part about "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges." Of course that would be the taxpayers who made that investment, not the business owner. This is just one way they mislead their uninformed viewers. Fox viewers are less informed than people who watch no news at all, according to a poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University. Well, duh!

Their constant harangue of "he's un-American" is absolutely disgraceful and shows the ignorance and hate pervasive in the GOP. Romney is so proud that they have something to distract from Bain and the tax returns, which he knows would be devastating.

ANN BENTON, Signal Mountain

Stop Syrian leader's insanity

I don't really understand all of the violence and some of the unbelievable happenings that exist in our world today, tomorrow and most likely in the future. The No. 1 trouble spot is, as we watch and listen, the unreal horrors in Syria. Everyone has a right to life, but that's not true in that part of the world.

I'm always receiving letters asking for donations to the Humane Society, and I give as often as possible. All living things have the right to life, and I get sick to my stomach wondering why human beings are being continually killed in Syria. The leader of that country, in my opinion, has completely lost his mind.

I also don't understand why the rest of the free world seems to not somehow reach out to the unfortunate men, women and children and stop the Syrian president from his 100 percent insanity. Things of this nature should not be allowed to go on and on. The world is full of violence, and it is time for a change to get rid of it and the culprits behind it.

Please pray for some sanity in our world.

RICHARD D. BLOOD, Ringgold, Ga.

We can't survive leader's philosophy

The president said in Roanoke recently that government is the reason for all individual business success. This reveals the philosophy of this man, if you have paid attention to similar comments in his past. If you think like this, then government must have more of our money in order to make us successful. Besides the fact that it's untrue that government created successful businesses, just think of how this will affect all of us. Government will grow and thus take more of our money, and it will force us to comply in order to sustain it. We are already broke with the massive spending of this president, and yet he believes we must have more in order to be successful. Do you feel like more of this high food costs, housing, gas prices, and low employment opportunity? Is this success when we are going to lose our individual health care to the agency that will run like the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles)? We cannot survive another four years of this president's type of philosophy.

BRUCE CALDWELL, Signal Mountain

Abundance spoils many in country

The economy has been tough on everybody, including the rich. I do feel sorry for the ones who have to work three different jobs at awful corporations just to make it, and the people who are on food stamps, ones who lost their homes, the victims of this "freak weather," etc.

But our economy has destroyed the planet because of the gluttony of we the people. Our economy and government are consumed by greed. We are so spoiled in this abundant country.

I am sick to see such a lack of gratitude for God's blessings. Sadly in America, we lust for more. We will not die of starvation like Africa. There are gardens, churches, kitchens and government assistance that prevent that here. Our problem: we are spoiled, rotten brats and our economy is based on stuff we don't need.

Stop buying it, buy what you do need like food and be grateful you are not starving. The economy is restructuring and we are living in one of the most exciting times in history. We are more apt to seek truth and live it. Live simply. Buy local.


Prayer foes use opponents' tactics

Paradoxically, the two gentlemen who started the flap over prayer at Hamilton County Commission meetings are themselves engaged in the same tactics they speak against. They claim to be offended by Christian prayers that are foisted upon themselves and others who do not believe in Christ. Ironically, legal pressure is being used to force the majority to comply with their views.

By creating this issue, the aggrieved overlook other means of resolution that are more positive and less divisive. Respectfully waiting in the hall until the prayer is over preserves freedom of conscience for all concerned without using force to achieve compliance.

Our society is filled with events which our individual values reject. Instead of insisting that violent movies, rock concerts, or filthy pornography be changed to meet my convictions, I choose not to attend rather than muscle the promoters to abandon their plans.


Areas of Erlanger need improvement

I see that Erlanger hospital is under a new administration.

As a retired registered nurse, I have noted many areas in dire need of improvement.

I have seen dried blood and accumulated dirt and dust on gurneys in the emergency room from previous patients. There is a lack of general cleanliness both in housekeeping and in care of patients.

The Intermediate intensive care unit is poorly run and understaffed. Patients' call lights frequently go unanswered for 10 minutes or more. There is unnecessary catheterization, and patients go unwashed and unshaven allowing bacterial infections to occur.

Attending personnel do not pay attention to patient history from patients and family. I have seen medication administered wrongly, or not administered at all by hospital personnel.

On the positive side, the ICU units seem to be well run. The Gunbarrel Road maternity unit was well-run eight or nine years ago; as was the main maternity unit on Third Street 30 years ago, as well as the neonatal unit at that time.

All hospitals need more certified nursing assistants enabling the nursing staff to give better care for which they are trained.

SUSAN NIELSON, R.N. (Retired), Collegedale

Change America in order to save it

We the people of the United States of America do know and understand that if we don't change this current administration, the America we know and love will be gone forever.

I don't know what Obama's platform for re-election consists of, as he can't run on his record for the past three and a half years. It's too late for any more "Bush bashing." So I guess he'll just keep on telling lies about Mitt Romney.

Obama's idea of creating jobs is expanding the federal government. Obamacare will be America's largest tax increase in history, and it still won't work. Food stamps and welfare are at an all-time high.

American voters have three choices: (1) If you like big government, high unemployment, high deficits, failed policies and a continued slide toward socialism, vote Obama. (2) If you'd rather have smaller government, higher employment, policies that will work, a return to capitalism and democracy, vote for Romney. (3) Don't vote and let those who care decide your future for you.

Pray for a change we can believe in. "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." (Matthew 11:15)


Yes, there are self-made men

Mr. Obama says there are no self-made men in this country. His quote — "If you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own" — might be validated by a man I knew my whole life — my father. He started out working for the government from 1942-1945. His position? Mud Marine participating in three beach invasions of the Marianna Islands in WWII. From this he saved enough money to pay cash for his first house. He then mortgaged it to start his business. He took a risk with no promise of success. But with diligence, hard work and no government interference he made it a success. The business is still open today, 64 years later. Did he have help? Yes. But that help was given with collateral to back it up. He was not helped by "redistributing the wealth" from hard-working Americans to people waiting for the government to give them their "due" as they see it.

Mr. Obama wants to socialize success. He wants everyone dependent on the government so he and his cronies can have total control of our lives. My father was a self-made man.


Start living by democracy

I think it's sad that democracy has become some sort of thing we only consider in America rather than live by. Take the recent fiasco concerning pro-gay rights people against Chick-FiL-A restaurants. There are mayors of entire cities like Boston who are refusing to even let Chick-Fil-A open any more restaurants within their city limits. How is that anything like democracy?

I think Chick-Fil-A's founder, Truett Cathy, has every right to oppose the homosexual lifestyle; just like people have the right to support it. It's still a free country, right? Right?! Once it was gay people who had to "come out of the closet"; but now it's instead the case for people who oppose the gay lifestyle.

In a "democracy" I don't think it's very democratic at all to force everyone to conform and accept everything society casually decides to accept — including when it was against the homosexual lifestyle as well as now that it's for it.


Debt ceiling just keeps rising

Debt ceiling. Debt ceiling. Debt ceiling. We hear those words so often they mean nothing to the average person. The U.S. Treasury Department has raised, extended or altered the definition of our debt limit 78 times since 1960.

Several outcomes of raising the debt ceiling are:

1. In January 2012, Congress raised the debt ceiling to $16.4 trillion. That's $220,000 for a family of four. That's gigantic and reprehensible.

2. Last year our national debt increased $1.4 trillion. That sum is almost $19,000 per family of four.

3. We are being led by a president who is the first ever to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the United States.

My nephew in Wisconsin got it right when he described another way to look at the debt ceiling: Let's say you come home from work and find there has been a sewer backup in your neighborhood -- and your home has sewage all the way up to your ceilings. What do you think you should do? Raise the ceilings, or pump out the sewage?

If stupidity was against the law, we'd have a lot more politicians in jail. Your choice is coming November 2012.


Boy Scouts maintain oath

Thank the Lord for one organization that has the guts to stand up for what is right. The Boy Scouts' recent decision to continue to exclude the so-called "gays" from membership in their organization is an example that should be followed by other weak-kneed groups that succumb to political pressure. The Boy Scout oath contains the line, "keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight." If they had surrendered to the immoral "gay" movement, they would have to eliminate the words "morally straight" from the oath.


No family ties in tax office

Re: a letter (July 24) in support of Keith Fults concerning the deputy tax commissioner position in Walker County. If memory serves, Melba Powell was deputy tax commissioner under Ralph Aiken in the 1970s. When he retired, Melba ran for and became tax commissioner. Glenda Noblitt was deputy tax commissioner in the 1980s. In the '90s until 2011, Gloria Clarkson was deputy tax commissioner. The letter suggests a familial relationship between Carolyn Walker and Karen Walker.

I assure you there's none. Karen is my niece and is married to a young man from the LaFayette area whose family has no relationship to Carolyn's husband, who was raised in Chickamauga.

The deputy tax commissioner's job in Walker County is to maintain the personnel time and leave and bookkeeping duties and to act on behalf of the tax commissioner in his/her absence. She is much like an assistant manager to the manager in an office. I'm unsure what the letter is insinuating with the comment about the "service and performance of the office" not changing, just the leader.

My niece has no political aspirations and has stated as much on many occasions. She's working to support her son in college and her son in elementary school.


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GARY KNOWLESm yes, politicians have defrauded voters.

ANN BENTON, hey look at Bruce Caldwell, trying to sell that same line of BS. What a coincidence.

RICHARD D. BLOOD, How? Invade Syria with an outside force? That has perils of its own.

BRUCE CALDWELL, no the President did not say that, and your interpretation is distorted claim. BTW, this country isn't broke, nor has Obama engaged in massive spending, not compared to his predecessor or Ronald Reagan. And no, you won't lose your individual health care plan either. What will happen is millions of people without one will get the option for one instead of driving up your own costs.

REAGAN SCHMISSRAUTER, no that's not quite the problem. And no, the economy has not been tough on the rich.

EUGENE GASCAY, ah, trying to blame the persons concerned about discrimination for being coercive. What a clever bit of sophistry. Sorry, but putting people out in the halls is exactly the kind of suggestion that proves how discriminatory you want to be. You can't win by kicking things out. BTW, the concerned people DID try other forms of resolution. Predictably they failed. Do you really think they should be so compromised by your idea of non-coercion that they just end up doing nothing? Yeah, keep trying. And the difference between what you talk about not attending and the county commission meeting is that one is a private event. The other is an act by the public, and that makes all the difference.

JOHN BOHANNON, actually it's Mitt Romney telling lies and bashing Obama while failing to offer substantive plans himself. Like for example how he says he'll get rid of tax loopholes, but fails to name any. And hey, you lie too. If Obama's idea of creating jobs is expanding the number of government employees, why then are there fewer public sector workers than on the day he took office? Even limited to just federal employees, most of the hiring is in the DOD, Homeland Security and Veterans Affairs. All things that Mitt Romney wants to increase funding for as well. Oh wait, you don't care about facts. You just believe whatever Mitt Romney says. Great choice there! And no, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is not a tax increase. Keep lying about that too.

SCOTT HARRINGTON, really, then his parents didn't help him? He didn't enjoy the benefit of government providing him with law enforcement, fire service, keeping the streets clean? He didn't go to school, or hire anybody who did? Sorry, but your father lived with a huge society operating around him. Where would your father have been without the rest of America around him? Where?

July 30, 2012 at 12:40 a.m.

WILL LANCE, actually, one of the things about living in a civilized society is that we don't have complete and utter freedom to do what we want. You've fallen for a common mental trap, that everybody needs to have the liberty to be free to be intolerant, or we're as bad as some oppressive despot.

And yes, we do have to resist the people who protest that they are the victims, that they aren't free to be oppressive and intolerant themselves. Being intolerant of intolerance is not bigotry. It's just a sham defense by those who don't want to be challenged.

E. LEE GERALDSON, you know there's a reason why the Debt isn't expected to be paid by each individual person or family, right? And you do know that the credit rating gamesmanship was explicitly stated to be due to Republican intransigence, not because of the President?

But let me ask you a question, let's say the sewage is in your house, and you don't have the cash on hand to pay for it to be pumped out. Do you live with the sewage in your house, or do you get a loan to pay for it?

ED MARKERT, I don't consider intolerance and bigotry to be "morally straight" but rather a moral twisting that shows how anybody can claim virtue while abusing it.

July 30, 2012 at 12:48 a.m.
Fendrel said...

ED MARKET - and if they were to allow atheists in their organization would they then need to purge the words "mentally awake" as well?

EUGENE GASCAY - So, asking people to act in accordance with the laws of the land is being negative and divisive?

July 30, 2012 at 8:23 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Bruce Caldwell: The President said no such thing. You've been swallowing poison punditry.
It's disappointing when people like you are too lazy to listen to what our President actually says (in context). I guess it's easier to lap up the rotten regurgitations of Fox, Limbaugh, et al.

July 30, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Gary Knowles, thanks for your intelligent letter. I am also frustrated with the TFP's perpetuation of lies. Newspapers should inform, not spread distortions. I'm willing to consider all sides of an issue. But, it's impossible to respect editorialists -- or the paper the write for -- when their opinions are so often based on falsehoods and inaccuracies. The FP editorialists are either very sloppy or intentionally deceitful, and promoting propaganda, not journalism.

July 30, 2012 at 8:44 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Eugene Gascay, your letter misses the (rather obvious) distinction between private enterprise and government. One can choose to avoid and ignore a privately-produced movie or concert; one cannot choose to avoid and ignore the impact of one's own county, state, or federal government. That's why the Founders called for separation of church and state, so that religions are not forced on people by their government.

July 30, 2012 at 9 a.m.
riverman said...

Must be idiot day from reading the first 2 letters. Poor little annie has her panties in a wad about Fox News but conveniently doesn't mention that NBC got caught altering the George Zimmerman 911 tape or that ABC mistakenly identified a 52 year old Colorado tea party member as the Theater shooter. As for Gary Knowles , well at least he lives in Georgia, hate to think anyone that stupid lived in Tennessee.

July 30, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.

And riverman wants us to believe he's truly objective about it. Sorry, but you'll rant all day about NBC or ABC while ignoring Fox's greater transgressions.

I'd agree with you about NBC, not that I think it makes a difference in the Zimmerman case, but as for ABC mistakenly identifying somebody? No, they guarded their words, ABC's fault was haste, not deception. Wow, they google'd a name...that's hysterically preposterous, but not outright fraud and deception.

July 30, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Ann Benton is quite right that the GOP has disgraced itself with smears and lies that mimic Goebbels' propaganda techniques. It's shameful, and the Republican Party deserves to be roundly slapped for stooping to such a dishonorable level. History will remember.

July 30, 2012 at 1:18 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Thank you for the plain spoken intelligence and common sense in your letters, Gary Knowles and Ann Benton. Unfortunately there are those like riverman whose rightie tightie whities are in such "a wad" that they cannot see the clear and simple truth of what you say.

John Bohannon, everything in your letter is nothing but right wing sound bytes, drivel, and broad generalizations. It's obvious you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You sound to me like just another one of those good ol' Limbaugh-lovin' flag-wavin' amurikans who believes in indivijul freedum and wants the stinkin' gubmint to keep its hands off yore guns and yore Medicare. I usually bristle at Bible quotes because they're almost always inane, but there is actually some wisdom in the one you chose. Too bad the wisdom of it is not getting through to you.

July 30, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Scott Harrington, I appreciate your father's service to country and I know you must be proud of his accomplishments, both war-time and after returning from service. But I don't know how much of a "self-made" man he would have become without assistance from the governmment - big time assistance! Do you know what the tax rate on the rich was from 1945 - 1964? It was 94% on income above $200,000. In 1964 it went down to 77%, still very high. During those years the nation enjoyed the highest level of prosperity it has ever known, and the middle class was never stronger. We had a fully functioning, growing manufacturing base, made most of our own products, labor unions were strong and effective, and a blue collar worker could make a decent living, making a decent wage. Your father got a huge leg up from the government in the form of government-backed mortgage loans at an extremely low rate. What's more, the GI Bill helped all returning WW2 vets get a fully paid-for college education.

How many soldiers returning from service today, even those who served years of combat duty, are able to come back home and pay cash for their first house? Yet the anti-government contingent today doesn't want the government doing anything to help the poor or the average working stiff, even if they are combat veterans.

Mr. Harrington, I'm sure your "self-made" father was a man in his own right and a strong individual, but his success was due in large part to government assistance that you don't seem willing to admit to.

July 30, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
riverman said...

I still don't understand why democrats, even those with an IQ of 75 and an ninth grade education, can not understand that between January of 2009 and January of 2011 you controlled the White House, the House of Representatives and had a filibuster proof 60 members in the Senate. Your boy Owebama, Dingy Harry and Nasty Pelosi could have passed ANYTHING they wanted. So why didn't they?

July 30, 2012 at 3:44 p.m.

Probably because despite Republican hysterical rants, President Obama isn't a dictator, and Democrats aren't some mindless herd that votes in Lockstep.

They actually had to compromise for some of the more Conservative members of their party, that's why, for example, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act doesn't include a public option.

Of course it was all a Republican idea anyway, despite their new-found opposition to everything in it.

July 30, 2012 at 4:02 p.m.
Ozzy87 said...

riverman said... I still don't understand why democrats, even those with an IQ of 75 and an ninth grade education, can not understand that between January of 2009 and January of 2011 you controlled the White House, the House of Representatives and had a filibuster proof 60 members in the Senate. Your boy Owebama, Dingy Harry and Nasty Pelosi could have passed ANYTHING they wanted. So why didn't they?

Well, let's at least get our history straight. Until Al Franken was sworn in on July 7, 2009 the Democratic caucus in the Senate stood at 59. After that it was technically up to 60, but Ted Kennedy hadn't cast a vote in months and was housebound due to illness. He died a few weeks later and was replaced by Paul Kirk on September 24, finally bringing the Democratic majority up to 60 in practice as well as theory. After that the Senate was in session for 11 weeks before taking its winter recess, followed by three weeks until Scott Brown won Kennedy's seat in the Massachusetts special election. So that means Democrats had an effective filibuster-proof majority for about 14 weeks

July 30, 2012 at 11:32 p.m.
raygunz said...

Ozzy87,,thanks for pointing that out!

July 31, 2012 at 12:34 a.m.
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