published Saturday, June 9th, 2012

Tight security

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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aidehua said...

Bennett - the Bigot-In-Chief plays nice for his Media Matters masters. Only an imbecile would suggest that voting is not as important a civic duty as buying a beer. The latter requires a photo ID and so should voting. Unless of course you are an ACORN stooge like Mr. Bennett and play for the ill-gotten wealth of race hustlers, anti-Semites, union cronies and garden variety Democrats. clay, you're a talented graphic artist but one godawful social commentator.

June 9, 2012 at 12:15 a.m.
nucanuck said...

" The Land of the Free" is becomming just a memory. What we have done to ourselves far exceeds what others ever could have done. FEAR is a dreadful desease.

June 9, 2012 at 12:37 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

ID to vote yes, as ID is required for lots of other things. Look up the video of a white man in Eric Holder's precinct calling himself Holder and getting invited to vote without showing ID.

El Al (Israeli airline), talking to passengers instead of scanning them, hasn't had a hijacking since the late '60s.

nucanuck, scanning is a nuisance--I've been scanned at mall entrances in the Philippines--but get some balance; the US is not Saudi Arabia or North Korea.

June 9, 2012 at 6:05 a.m.
joneses said...

This is just another stupid, dishonest, cartoon by a dummycrat puppet that spreads hate and lies. The reason libtards are against voter ID is because it makes it harder for them to cheat. The real voter intimidation is from the dummycrats as not one dummycrat stood up to the Black Panther Party's blatant voter intimidation. That is it plain and simple. On top of that they are against anything the other side wants just for the sole purpose of hating the other side.

The libtard/dummycrats hate profits, corporations, success, wealthy people, oil, oil companies, banks, blacks, women, Wall Street, of course they do not mind taking money from Wall Street, people with differing opinions, Israel, letting babies have a chance at life, guns, physical contact sports, Christians, The Bible, the middle class, self reliance, individualism, hard work, stuff they have to pay for, pickup trucks, facts, The Ten Commandments, private schools, freedom, less federal government intrusion, lower taxes, people that do not depend on the government, closed borders, the military, the American soldier, hunting, the ability to defend yourself, The Catholic Church, freedom of choice, and many other things that are healthy for America.

June 9, 2012 at 6:38 a.m.
WHS1970 said...

jonsey, you are one warped individual.

June 9, 2012 at 7:02 a.m.
MTJohn said...

AndrewLohr said..."--but get some balance; the US is not Saudi Arabia or North Korea."

At least not yet.

June 9, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
rick1 said...

Even former Justice John Paul Stevens who is a liberal also supports voter ID laws.

The U.S. Supreme Court voted in favor of Indiana's voter ID law and Stevens wrote for the court explaining "The application of the statute to the vast majority of Indiana voters is amply justified by the valid interest in protecting ‘the integrity and reliability of the electoral process. "

When a conservative or libertarian supports voter ID laws there are some people who post on this forum that call us racists. When are these same people going to call Stevens a racist because he supports voter ID laws?

June 9, 2012 at 8:14 a.m.
bret said...

Why shouldn't dead people be allowed to vote? After all, brain dead people vote all the time. That's how we got Chuck Fleischmann.

June 9, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
degage said...

They voted for Obama too.

June 9, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Hilarious... Blackwater, you'd better get offshore for that week, the pilgrims are coming! They'll be dragging crosses around the Dali Museum. 50,000 rabid proselytizers, each one of them better than the others. Should be a boost for the local churches and the red light district. Hey, anybody know if Joseph Smith called the shot on this Momentous Mormon Occasion?

June 9, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
conservative said...

So who obeyed the voter ID law and didn't get to vote?

June 9, 2012 at 8:58 a.m.
mymy said...

Florida tried to work with Homeland Securiety by requesting names on their database. Homeland never responded (delay tactics). Now Eric Holder filed another silly suit to continue the delay of cleaning up voter rolls. What more is there to say.

Bret: The real brain dead people gave us Obama!

June 9, 2012 at 9 a.m.
alprova said...

mymy wrote: "Florida tried to work with Homeland Securiety by requesting names on their database."

Wait a minute. Since when does Homeland Security track the names of people who have died in Florida?

"Homeland never responded (delay tactics)."

I don't think you have the first clue as to what you are typing about.

"The real brain dead people gave us Obama!"

Look forward to us giving him another four years too.

June 9, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Nooga still at it with his vicious, yet childish, name calling.

June 9, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
DJHBRAINERD said...

ALPROVA I believe mymy was refering to noncitizens with the homeland security reference :

NY TIMES MAY 17 MIAMI — In an attempt to clear the voter rolls of noncitizens, a move that had set off criticism and a threatened lawsuit, Florida election officials decided on Thursday to use information from a federal database to check a list of 182,000 voters who they suspect are not citizens, officials said.

Since last year, the Florida Division of Elections had sought access to the immigration database, which is maintained by the Department of Homeland Security, but the department said there were legal and technical difficulties in sharing the information.

latino.foxnews.com/latino/.../53k-dead-people-on-florida-voter-rolls

This link has both the homeland non citizen reference and the reference to dead people being purged by cross checking voter rolls with social security files.

June 9, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.

If Republicans were honest about voting, they would concentrate on the provision of ID first. Yet instead of adopting a proactive stance to ensure nobody is unlawfully disenfranchised, they run from the idea. Several times, I've stated that requirement, but more often, it's said to be too expensive. How cheap do you want justice? Isn't it worth the price to do it right?

It's funny, they rail against abusive government regulation elsewhere, but when it comes to keeping legitimate people from voting, it's somehow acceptable. If we conducted trials under the same standard, it'd be a burden to prove your innocence.

There's a reason all 67 Florida Supervisors of Elections have rejected Rick Scott's list. Too many errors. Too many flaws. If Rick Scott wants to question a citizen's right to vote, he should do it in person. Also Stand Your Ground should explicitly include denial of civil rights as a life-threatening offense.

Then we'll see if he has the courage of his convictions.

PS, I want to see where the Department of Homeland Security is tasked with voter identification. That doesn't fit their job description.

Conservative, Lincoln Davis for one. The ACLU has others.

Rick, and yet the real problem is not showing the ID, but the provision of it. Not to mention the various restrictions on what's acceptable. Not to mention the creates who have put undue burdens on people and unlawfully challenged legitimate voters. Why don't you ask Stevens what he thinks of that? Oh wait, you could read the same opinion.

Besides, Oregon conducts their elections by mail. If ID is so essential, why aren't they overrun by fraud? You know the worst fraud in elections is inside jobs. Why so little attention paid to that? Heck, why can the GOP run fake candidates in a Democratic primary? Why no mention of that fraud?

June 9, 2012 at 10:21 a.m.
Easy123 said...

"The libtard/dummycrats hate profits, corporations, success, wealthy people, oil, oil companies, banks, blacks, women, Wall Street, of course they do not mind taking money from Wall Street, people with differing opinions, Israel, letting babies have a chance at life, guns, physical contact sports, Christians, The Bible, the middle class, self reliance, individualism, hard work, stuff they have to pay for, pickup trucks, facts, The Ten Commandments, private schools, freedom, less federal government intrusion, lower taxes, people that do not depend on the government, closed borders, the military, the American soldier, hunting, the ability to defend yourself, The Catholic Church, freedom of choice, and many other things that are healthy for America."

I think joneses is related to Eric Rudolph or possibly IS Eric Rudolph. Like WHS1970 said, you are warped.

June 9, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.
Salsa said...

Since we are not going to allow the legal purging of people who should not be voting in our elections then lets just invite the Chinese, Russians, and the whole rest of the world to vote in our elections too.

June 9, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.
conservative said...

AndrewLohr said....

"ID to vote yes, as ID is required for lots of other things. Look up the video of a white man in Eric Holder's precinct calling himself Holder and getting invited to vote without showing ID."

That got publicity, publicity which validated the need for voter ID

June 9, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

You need a picture I.D. for Every major transaction in your life. Bank accounts, buying a house, buying a car etc.... face it, in order To participate in the human race we must have valid photo I.D.!

The democrats must not really care about their constituents that much if they don't care for them to have a photo I.D.

In order to be successful in this (or most other) countries, at the very least you must have photo I.D.

How does a person even get a job without I.D.?

The democrats are saying they don't care if you get a job or become successful....if they cared they would be fighting to give EVERYBODY photo I.D.s.

Why are democrats SO against voter I.D.? The excuse of "the poor can't get one" doesn't fly because in order to get out of the poor house you GOT to have an I.D.! HMMMMMMMMM!! Could it be that the democrats LIKE them being poor? After all, successful people don't really NEED a democrat hero now do they!? Sounds to me like the democrats LIKE the guaranteed votes of the poor.

June 9, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
alprova said...

Homeland Security is a very poor means by which to check for non-citizens. They are not concerned with who is and who is not a U.S. Citizen.

This nation has a plethora of people who reside here whose name does not appear on any list. Just about all these people are totally unable to register to vote for that very same reason.

Florida's effort to purge voter lists is a complete rouse and everyone knows it too.

There is absolutely no evidence that voter fraud occurs in high enough numbers to sway the result of any election throughout the United States. There are more people who appear at the polls to find out that they will not be allowed to cast their vote, than there are instances of voting impropriety.

June 9, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
moonpie said...

I know people will disagree with this, but I don't think the voter ID laws are specifically racist or specifically aimed at preventing voter fraud.

Fraud is the conservative gambit to promote this kind of legislation.

Racism is the liberal gambit to combat it.

The real intent behind these laws are to prevent those who are poor and disadvantaged from voting. I think it is true that more people without ID would be Obama/Democratic supporters. I see this as a purely political manuever and the arguments surrounding it to be a distraction.

All that being said, I see nothing wrong with a voter ID law. As HWTHB said, the ID must be easy to obtain. They need to be available at the election commission and post offices for starters.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently there are only 38 driver's license bureaus in Tennessee. Some of these are redunant (meaning more than 1 per county.) This means not all counties even have them.

June 9, 2012 at 11:33 a.m.
potcat said...

Florida, come on, its an important state and we know the RNC will do any and every illegal in your face thing they can to get pussy diapers to win the state. Gore v manufactured cowboy ring any bells.

June 9, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Is Bennett pointing out that it is harder to get on an airplane than it is to vote?

I'd offer kudos to the cartoonist but I know he is not that clever.

June 9, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
John_Proctor said...

moonpie @11:33, after all of the hatred spewed here, after all of the feces flinging, your logical coherent posting is a welcome breath of fresh air. It is also accurate.

June 9, 2012 at 2:07 p.m.
mymy said...

Attorney general(O's best buddy Eric Holder) says two prosecutors are 'authorized' to investigate leaks that put national security at risk.

Now that's a hoot. The fox guarding the hen house again. More chickens are coming home to roost. LOL

June 9, 2012 at 4:06 p.m.

TOES02800, if Photo IDs are so important, why isn't the government obligated to provide it? And plenty of people get jobs from family members, are paid under the table or are self-employed.

Mitt Romney even said that was a fine way to do things, to get a loan from your parents and go into business for yourself.

But hey, why are you so gung-ho for more government control of our lives? Why do you want to be beholden to them, without even requiring a modicum of oversight? Why so eager to make the bureaucrats supreme?

tu_quoque, conservative asked for somebody complying with the Voter ID law who didn't get to vote. Yet somebody still found a way to keep him from voting.

Not that the Voter ID law is a good idea, notice the unacceptable forms of ID on the list. Deliberate attempts to exclude certain voters. And why is that pattern the same so many places? It's almost like somebody is behind it.

And cowards like Rick Scott need to face the public instead of run from them. If he has to be afraid for his life to do right, that's the same agenda he has been promoting for others. He wants them afraid, but will he measure himself that same way, when he couldn't even take his own drug test? But actually, Homeland Security never kept Florida from any database. The county elections supervisors had the ICE list, the SAVE list was a different segment of data, and the state had that already too. Sorry, but I said it wasn't their job, and it isn't, but Florida is sure hellbent on making them do a lot of legwork. Much like that Arizona Secretary of state who bothered Hawaii for a birth certificate, the complaint lacks legitimacy.

But if you want to see the ACLU list of voter rights complaints, visit their site. I'm sure it won't land you on any watchlists.

And why don't you tell me why the state shouldn't be pro actively required to provide ID? If it's so essential, why not make it be done right?

June 9, 2012 at 4:17 p.m.

Potcat, they're doing the same everywhere they can. ALEC is quite consistent.

BigRidgePatriot, every effort should be made to ensure that everybody gets to exercise their right to vote, and that anybody who tries to unlawfully deny it should face penalties for their abuses.

Moonpie, not just easy to obtain, but more than that, it needs to be explicitly provided. If you don't have documentation, they need to get it, or talk to people for you. And, yes in every county. Even if by a mobile unit in a bus.

June 9, 2012 at 4:32 p.m.
conservative said...

When photo IDs are no longer required only Michelle Obama will require photo ID.

June 9, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.

Why didn't Thad McCotter ask for ID?

June 9, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

There you go again bulbs. People have absolutely no responsibility for themselves. Your such a liberal. According to you, the government must provide everything of importance. You can't fathom people doing ANYTHING for themselves can you?!

June 9, 2012 at 5:17 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Liberals live by voter fraud. Why doesn't Bennett draw us a picture of the New Black Panthers standing in front of a polling site with clubs threatening everybody who votes republican? Or blacks talking about killing all white babies if you vote republican? What an ass hole!

June 9, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.
rick1 said...

Obama and Holder have been doing everything they can to block voter-id laws. But if you want to see Michelle Obama at her book signing, you must purchase her book first and also present your social security number and a photo id to the Secert Service.

http://obamafoodorama.blogspot.com/2012/05/first-lady-michelle-obama-will.html

June 9, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

http://www.ask.com/wiki/?q=New+Black+Panther+Party+voter+intimidation+case&qsrc=389

Since bulbs demands links all the time. Here's just one of literally hundreds.

June 9, 2012 at 5:35 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why is this not racism, yet simply disagreeing with Obama is?

June 9, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.

TOES02800, actually, it's you who doesn't want the government to be responsible. You'd rather make excuses for them and blame the citizens than make the government be accountable for its actions.

Strange how that's OK with you. It does not seem consistent with justice. But Conservatives love keeping people from voting. It's their best way to win. Some of the rest of us do not approve of the government denying people their actual rights. Especially not when it is done under fabricated pretenses.

And its funny, you worry about some random Black Panther but you don't care about Sheriff Joe Arpaio getting sued for twenty million, about Dorothy Cooper or Bill Internicola having their right to vote challenged, or even about Terry Jones calling for the President to be hanged.

http://youtu.be/ZdrMBj_Y46M

BTW, here's a search for you, plug it into your favorite search engine:

Republican voter intimidation

A search engine link is not an actual source, but your trying to pass one off as legitimate is kinda telling.

BTW, what's up with the spate of spam-posting, are your handlers imposing a post quota?

June 9, 2012 at 6:17 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

http://bloodthirstyliberal.com/category/voter-fraud/

Random bulbs? Liberals make up only 30% of the population, you NEED voter fraud.

Without voter fraud, liberal candidates would wither on the vine.

June 9, 2012 at 6:18 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Random? Oh you poor lost little liberal soul. As long as you keep believing your liberal lie, you'll be just fine.

Now go have a nice glass of warm organic milk and a tofu sandwich and take a nap.

June 9, 2012 at 6:22 p.m.
alprova said...

You know Toes02800, I'll just bet that whenever you see a black man walking down a street, you hit the lock button on your car door.

If he were carrying a billy club, you'd probably start having a panic attack while grabbing your cell phone to dial 911.

Nothing will ever come out of any investigation into the actions of New Black Panther members at that Philadelphia polling location, because they did nothing wrong.

Ooohhh a black man is standing outside of the polling place, not talking or even attempting to catch the eye of anyone who approaches the building.

That's real intimidating to every white bigot in the land.

June 9, 2012 at 6:25 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/cost-lunch-warren-buffett-35-million-16531435#.T9PNiNWtmPt

Off topic but I couldn't resist. Those damn evil corporate bosses! Evil 1%ers!

June 9, 2012 at 6:29 p.m.

Guess we can see you have both resorted to the insults and harassment again. Resorting to such conduct is as bad as photocopying voter signatures to get on the ballot, don't you think?

And a source like that, so clearly legitimate. In reality, voter fraud is inconsequential compared to errors in voting machines.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/in-florida-voter-fraud-is-rarer-than-shark-attacks/1219292

There's a reason all of the Florida supervisors of elections have rejected Rick Scott's agenda. They know it is a fraud. Even the prior Secretary of State couldn't stomach it.

Without voter intimidation and outside spending, how would Republicans do? Their rotting deceits would be cast aside like spoiled fruits.

June 9, 2012 at 6:35 p.m.

Alprova, now, now, they might find child porn or something.

Why it almost got into the Congressional Record.

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/07/4546069/kentucky-environmentalist-asked.html

June 9, 2012 at 6:40 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

I grew up in Pittsburgh goofball! I know more black people than you probably ever seen. I have more black friends than enemies.

Imagine that! A black atty. general and a black president not pressing charges on a black gang for intimidating white voters. Golly Beaver!!

June 9, 2012 at 6:45 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

alprova; You had little credibility. After that last post, you have none.

June 9, 2012 at 7:17 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

I have to show my ID for everything else I do, from renting a car to buying a beer, to opening a bank account to sometimes even when charging a purchase on a credit card. Why should voting be any different than anything else?

It shouldn't be, except to people who want to commit fraud.

June 9, 2012 at 7:45 p.m.

TOES02800: Why haven't you watched this video?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdrMBj_Y46M

Or how about this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNn3Gz-gakM

Or read this news:

http://www.adn.com/2012/06/09/2498157/empty-seats-end-state-gop-convention.html

Republicans, once again, exploiting missing voters. Of course, you're still opposed to somebody busting a quorum, aren't you? So when can we expect you to write in your outrage over this nefarious stunt! It's denying democracy!

But hey, I'm sure Thad McCotter is still an upstanding citizens.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/thad-mccotters-problems-mount/2012/05/29/gJQAxBXMzU_blog.html

tu_quoque, yes because producing a pointless bit of documentation was so important to verifying that Dorothy Cooper was who she said she was. They just HAD to have it. And they had to make her produce it. Red Tape is ok when you can keep people from voting, huh?

Bill Internicola's birth date was wrong? He changed it to get to drive sooner? When was this, decades ago? Goodness me, why don't we lock him up, felon that he is! Maybe they should have just said "Hey, there's this error, can you explain it?" instead of making a claim that he wasn't a citizen. Especially strange is why it took them so long to catch it. Have they perhaps dealt with all the other crimes in Florida? Is there anybody else in Florida lying about their age. I've heard about this tawdy woman called Blanche Deveraux. She not only lies about her age, she adopted an assumed name!

Besides, there were over 500 people in Dade County. who refuted the letters they received. That error rate was high enough that NONE of the Florida Supervisors of Elections want to waste time with it.

Why is such a high rate of error acceptable to you, when you're so frightfully concerned over something that is less likely than a shark attack?

And if a Congressman has to waste the time of the police with what's obviously not Child Porn, how qualified is he to represent his constituents? PS, please learn the difference between "staged" and "faked" as they aren't the same.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/flake-doctored-photos-dishonest/article_cc451dcf-b76a-56d1-8f66-c4acb94ced4d.html

That's an example of a fake photograph.

prairie_dog, voting is a constitutional right, to deny it to citizens is a serious question of abuse of authority. But I've asked this question before, and not gotten an answer: Why don't you insist the government be pro-actively obligated to provide that ID? Isn't denying citizen's right to vote an issue that concerns you?

Do you not care?

June 9, 2012 at 8:23 p.m.
moonpie said...

John_Proctor,

Thank you for the kind words.

I think it's clear that many people who post here are very passionate. However, I do think that insults distract the central messages people try to make.

June 9, 2012 at 9:19 p.m.
hambone said...

OK! So you want me to beleive that the first thing a illegal does when he crosses our border is to register to vote. He's too scared to put his money in a bank, but he'll register to vote?

June 9, 2012 at 9:49 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

TAKE A CHILL PILL, DOG

Prairie Dog wailed, "I have to show my ID for everything else I do, from renting a car to buying a beer, to opening a bank account to sometimes even when charging a purchase on a credit card. Why should voting be any different than anything else?"

Rush or Glenn or some other dim-witted conservative marching bandleader posed that stupid question originally, and I've heard it repeated ad nauseam. Try looking over that sentence again and see if you see anything illogical. Go ahead.

Here's a hint: The right to vote is guaranteed in the Constitution. The government can only legally drop an American off the voter rolls with proof. They must show proof. It's like being innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof does not lie with the accused.

The legal drinking age is regulated by each State. The Constitution does not weigh in what age you should be able to legally purchase alcohol. The right to rent a car or open a bank account or buy something with a credit card is not guaranteed in the Constitution. Individual corporations pass those regulations. You wouldn’t' want to question the authority of a corporation, would you?

BTW, there is no evidence of voter fraud, widespread or otherwise. In fact, voter fraud is the least effective way to sway an election one way the other. A more effective way, if you were running for President, would be to have a State campaign chairwoman control your recount in a close election. Have her stop the recount twice and then have your sympathetic Supreme Court exhibit breath taking judicial overreach by stopping the recount a third and final time and awarding you the presidency. Even though you trailed your opponent by 500,000 votes. That's much more effective than having one or two or even a hundred people try to get past poll workers to cast an ballot illegally.

Good grief. You tea baggers don't have the common sense god gave mayonnaise. And purging names off voter registration rolls has less to do with voter fraud and more to do with preventing democrats and independents from voting.

The GOP is having a hard time trying to sell the same old crap of tax cuts for the rich plus increased military spending equals a balanced federal budget and lower unemployment.

June 9, 2012 at 10:12 p.m.
alprova said...

hwnb wrote: "Alprova, now, now, they might find child porn or something. Why it almost got into the Congressional Record."

I read about that case last week and watched the video that surrounded the environmental concerns in that area. It's sad stuff.

It's now almost illegal for parents to take tasteful pictures of naked babies these days. Scary, to say the least.

June 9, 2012 at 10:14 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Another tired topic from the wart generates a bunch of stupid hate filled posts. The TFP must be very proud of this trash filled page.

June 9, 2012 at 10:25 p.m.
alprova said...

Toes02800 wrote: "Watch this you white crackers!"

Ah yes...the infamously Fox News touted "kill white babies" video.

First of all, that particular incident happened years before Samir Shabazz was seen standing in front of the Philadelphia voting precinct with a billy club in his hand. He was upset that day with black men who were seen with white women.

He's mellowed out quite a bit since that piece of film was shot, mainly because the New Black Panthers took him to task for those words.

The New Black Panthers Party chief, Malik Shabazz addressed the content of that video during an interview conducted July 9, 2010.

"The New Black Panther Party does not believe in going out on the streets and berating black people."

"We don't believe in getting up and attacking our people in the streets."

We don't believe in telegraphing what we may or may not do."

"I don't believe, as an attorney, and just a wise general--I don't believe in telegraphing anything. And I don't believe--I don't believe in overhyped rhetoric. I don't believe in overhyped rhetoric that is not calculated to lead to serious action."

"And so I would say that King Samir has to speak better if he going to speak for this organization ever again in the future. He has to speak with a better, more calculated representation, and I believe that he has it in him to do it."

Q. "But obviously you don't believe in killing white babies, do you?"

A. "Um, no sir."

June 9, 2012 at 10:34 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack_Dennis wrote: "alprova; You had little credibility. After that last post, you have none."

While I am not sure which post you are referring to, I am not bothered in the least by your estimation of my credibility.

Try to be more specific in the future.

June 9, 2012 at 10:38 p.m.
joneses said...

WHS1970, eesy123,

You continue to show how ignorant you are as shown in your two mindless post about me.

June 9, 2012 at 10:40 p.m.
WHS1970 said...

jonsey, I'm not ignorant, I know exactly what I say and know exactly what I mean when I said that you are a warped individual.Be as conservative as you like, but your rants and name calling got old a long time ago. In other words, you sir, are a bore!

June 9, 2012 at 11:17 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Tu_quoq: I sorta thought the same thing.

June 9, 2012 at 11:31 p.m.

It's funny how certain people are always looking for ways to deny the right to vote to others, after all, it's really not an absolute.

Hardly an important right at all. Maybe Texas can do like some of the people here want, and declare being a Democrat a mental illness.

That'd save them!

June 9, 2012 at 11:47 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

SHE INFERRED SOMETHING I NEVER IMPLIED

TQ, bless your little heart, AGAIN (and this is getting tiresome) you completely and totally missed the point. Is that a republican thing? If you don't like a comment you simply provide a totally irrelevant response? If you don't like the question you just provide a different answer?

To recap: Prairie Dog regurgitated a tea bagger myth about voter ID cards. "I have to show my ID for everything else I do," PD whined, "From renting a car to buying a beer, to opening a bank account to sometimes even when charging a purchase on a credit card. Why should voting be any different than anything else?"

I asnwered by saying that the right to vote is guaranteed in the Constitution. I didn’t say EVERYONE had the right to vote. I didn’t quote the document. In case your pretty little head is all a tizzy, if you feel suddenly besieged by the ‘vapors,’ here's Article 4 of the Constitution:

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing (sic) Senators."

Anyway, at the founding of our Country only white guys who owned land had the right to vote. Everyone else – including Women – was banned. That’s not the same thing as saying voting was illegal. The right to vote has nothing to do with using a credit card or a financial institution's requirement for opening an account.

TQ, sweetheart, you cannot legally kick a registered voter off the rolls. Were you really making the argument that voting is not a Constitutionally guaranteed right? Seriously? I think the ACLU would gleefully challenge that legal interpretation in Federal Court. Heck, any first year law student would ace that one.

Hey Jack, you probably sorta thought the same thing, huh?

June 10, 2012 at 1:17 a.m.
fredrodriguez said...

I think the airport security is even tighter. The voter ID laws usually only require photo IDs to be checked while the airport usually checks everything else. In airports, where you usually see vehicle barriers and reinforced fences, it’s simple frustration whenever one has to go through all the security checks. I understand that airport security is in placed for the safety of the passengers, but I just hope that the TSA will be able to introduce more effective measures. After all, I believe, securities of the airlines are almost always upheld by information gathering instead of tedious security checks. http://www.rosssecuritysolutions.com/

November 13, 2012 at 2:31 a.m.
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