published Thursday, June 14th, 2012

Campaign Trail

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Jack_Dennis said...

Weak Sauce

June 14, 2012 at 12:14 a.m.
WHS1970 said...

I personally am disappointed in Scottie for his refusal to debate. What does he stand for or against? Does he think that he can be elected and not face scrutiny? Time will tell.

June 14, 2012 at 12:25 a.m.

Is he for or against anything? I suspect he's waiting to see which ways the wind blows.

June 14, 2012 at 1:08 a.m.
anniebelle said...

He knows he can count on the igornorance of his electorate. They know what they're told to know and that's it.

June 14, 2012 at 5:28 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

And the cartoonist will now give some wrong answers.

June 14, 2012 at 5:59 a.m.
fairmon said...

The web site post his positions. Could it be the media and party power brokers resent his rejecting their influence and his intent to act in the best interest of responsible tax paying citizens?

June 14, 2012 at 6:23 a.m.
Dumbledore403 said...

For one thing Rep Fleishmann did the same thing 2 years ago and ducked most debates if I remember right...and you cannot argue that it did not work for it did. And Andy, the answers are wrong in opinion because it does not match your answers.

June 14, 2012 at 7:53 a.m.

Yea well, a candidate can say whatever he/she wants in public in order to get elected. Talk, talk, talk. Blah, blah, blah. Just look at The Amatuer in the White House. Fake and phoney.

People. Checkout the candidate's background of leadership roles and acomplishments within those roles. Their work product should speak much more loudly than their pie hole.

June 14, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

He can always take one position, then change his mind when he smells money in the air, and just call it "evolving"!

Seems like I heard about that working somewhere else not long ago, but I just can't pin it down.

June 14, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

R's flip flop. D's evolve.

June 14, 2012 at 9:59 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

nooga may be 1/32nd Republican

June 14, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
JSprng said...

First it's he doesn't have strong positions and then it's he's dodging them? Would it help the Times Free Press if Scottie put a target on his back? At least this way you have something to aim for and throw your darts at. Wake up. He has stronger positions than any of the other candidates. That's why you keep writing about them.

June 14, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Mayfield is a wealthy man. Anathema to leftists.

June 14, 2012 at 1:14 p.m.

Not at all. It's his lack of principles, ethics, compassion and empathy that are the problems.

June 14, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Examples, bulbs?

June 14, 2012 at 2:13 p.m.

You're asking me to prove a negative? Wouldn't it be easier to provide examples of him demonstrating those qualities?

What does he stand for?

June 14, 2012 at 2:26 p.m.
hlking89 said...

If you go to Scottie's campaign website you will find that he has more position papers posted than any of the other candidates. Why the Times Free Press refused to write or draw something about that is beyond me!

June 14, 2012 at 2:37 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

hlking89: You're wasting your keystrokes talking to a partisan hack.

June 14, 2012 at 2:44 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

WHAT TOON BOY REALLY MEANS: Distinguished ladies and gentleman. I would like to avoid the fate that befell our esteemed King Kenyan several times recently. You know, it's best keep your mouth shut and let everyone think your and idiot president, than open it and prove everyone right. Thank you.

June 14, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.

He has papers posted? Wow, that must mean they're full of insight and specifically address people's concerns as he speaks from the heart. Or they're carefully crafted messages prepared by experts with a messaging theme set up in advance.

Nah, you partisan hacks are too devoted to your worship that you can't even notice how vapid they really are, or realize that posting a paper in isolation is not the same as addressing people.

Anybody can purport to profess wisdom in isolation, with words chosen by experts. Not surprising that so many are trying to deflect from that. Kitchen table politics is so gauche.

June 14, 2012 at 3:07 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

and your tone, Bulbous, is so cheesy.

June 14, 2012 at 3:17 p.m.
chatt_man said...

OK bulbs, let's see...not much is known about Mayfield. Maybe I can take some examples of what you're looking for by googling Obama/Principles. Oh, here, the first return is Secret 'Kill List' Tests Obama's Principles - NYTimes.com

Let's try Obama/Ethics - Oh, here I get Ethics | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team - It says "Obama and Biden will create a centralized Internet database of lobbying reports, ethics records, and campaign finance filings in a searchable, sortable and downloadable format". Isn't this great fun.

Let's try Obama/compassion - Here's a link that showed up. http://politicalbrambles.blogspot.com/2012/05/hypocrisy-of-obamas-compassion.html

This is really enlightening, thanks for the idea.

June 14, 2012 at 3:31 p.m.
Easy123 said...

You won bulbs, they've resorted to changing the subject.

While we are off the subject, YouTube: Mitt Romney's Mormon Beliefs. Oh, how enlightening indeed!

June 14, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Ah, the left. Openly religious bigots. Who knew?

June 14, 2012 at 4:35 p.m.
Easy123 said...

You mean bigots against religion. But it's not bigotry. I actually never made a statement about the video. I just encouraged you to look it up.

Ah, the Right. Openly ignorant. But I already knew.

June 14, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

tiny noogs. it seems to interest you, Bunky.

June 14, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.

Actually it's Bryan Fischer who claims that Mitt Romney is a polytheist, and I wouldn't call him a liberal.

But yes, this cartoon is about Mayfield, not Obama. Your failure to answer with anything but an attempt at a distraction is telling.

whatsnottaken, taking a position does require some moral courage, yes. Doing anything requires risking being wrong.

June 14, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.
gjuster said...

I am very disappointed in Mayfield - Chuck was at all the primary debates - he didn't debate after the primary - no reason to - it's a Republican district by a very wide margin. (right or wrong - that's the way it is) Mayfield should participate in the primary debates - there's one coming up June 23rd - words on a website are nice but nothing more than a script - it's what you say under pressure that counts. Come attend the debate - very tough questions will be asked - I know, I'm the moderator

June 14, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
DJHBRAINERD said...

With todays vicious political climate and the timesfreepress seemingly in the tank for Weston, it may not be such a bad idea to avoid answering questions. He would have nothing to gain because his every word would be twisted to fit a narative and everything to loose for the same reasons.

June 14, 2012 at 6:13 p.m.

Let's see, WHS1970, Obama got elected without any scrutiny from the popular media. So, I guess it can happen.

June 14, 2012 at 6:20 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Wellllll, that's different, Blonde.

June 14, 2012 at 6:33 p.m.
alprova said...

HNWB wrote: "It's his lack of principles, ethics, compassion and empathy that are the problems."

Chatt_Man chimed in to inquire: "Examples, bulbs?"

Well, I don't know the man on a personal level, but if you ask me, I think that the man lacks principles, ethics, compassion, and empathy for charging poor people a buck more a gallon for his milk and ice cream than his competitors sell theirs for.

He's too greedy for my taste, and that goes double for his products.

June 14, 2012 at 6:44 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

He's a horrible man for over-charging the poor for ice cream. Get a rope.

June 14, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
fairmon said...

Alpo said....

He is not a good person because of charging poor people a buck more a gallon for his milk and ice cream than his competitors sell theirs for.

Why don't those poor people and and anyone else that don't like his prices buy the competitors product? I think it is called capitalism. With the governments only involvement being quality regs and assuring competition without price fixing among competitors it works every time.

June 14, 2012 at 8:09 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Mayfield deserves this, but Bennett still sucks. One half way decent cartoon does not a Pulitzer Prize Winner make!

June 14, 2012 at 8:17 p.m.
alprova said...

Oh c'mon people. I was half joking.

While it's true that Mayfield's products are priced higher than their competitors, to each their own. Some people are fine paying more for them.

Personally, I haven't bought any Mayfield products in more than five years. Bi-Lo's "Clear Value" brand works just fine for me. Mayfield lost me when they reduced the size of their half-gallon of ice cream to 1.75 quarts. Saving a buck is a buck, and their milk is not any better at all in my opinion that it deserves to be a buck more a gallon than others out there.

June 14, 2012 at 8:18 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

It's called capitalism. harp gets it.

Mayfield lost you alprova the second you knew he was a republican.

Every salesman tries to get the most money they can for their product. Should the welfare recipients be given luxury cars because it's not fair that only people with some money have them?

The liberal mindset is staggering.

Why doesn't nooga donate one of his ocean liners to the poor so he won't feel guilty?

The hypocrisy train keeps on rolling.

June 14, 2012 at 10:17 p.m.
Easy123 said...

There is no hypocrisy. You made up a scenario and attributed it to ALPROVA. All ALPROVA said was that Mayfield's products were overpriced. That isn't hypocrisy. It's one persons opinion of Mayfield based on experience. You created the hypocrisy by putting words in ALPROVA's mouth.

It's baffling that you can't see that. The ignorance train keeps rolling.

June 14, 2012 at 10:23 p.m.
JSprng said...

gjuster - As the moderator for your not televised debate, you are going to rant on here about Mayfield and you expect him to participate?? How many do you expect to show up? 100 or 150 people? How many of those will be supporters of the candidates? Oh, but you expect Mayfield to debate while Chris Carroll sits and anxiously awaits Mayfield to respond to questions, so Chris can spin what he says in his article the next day. Yes, that is such a good campaign strategy! Please.

It's just like the last debate. 125 people showed up. They aired it online, but you had to stick your face in the computer in order to hear it. What about the northern counties? Where is their debate?

Do you think some of these counties who are facing double-digit unemployment give a crap about some polished answer a candidate gave from a stage? Hell no. They want JOBS.

There is only one candidate in the race who is a proven jobs creator and that is Scottie Mayfield.

June 14, 2012 at 11:02 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Easy the super liberal!! Fighting everyone's battles for them!!

ATTA BOY BIG FELLA! GO GET EM'!

June 14, 2012 at 11:13 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes, the super idiot! I wasn't fighting any battles. I was pointing out the obvious.

I already got you big girl.

June 14, 2012 at 11:38 p.m.

It's hilarious what people will attribute to some virtuous aspect of capitalism. Except Alprova's pointing out the lack of value he perceives from Mayfield's product is an essential aspect of the free market, so...why get so upset of it?

But no, Mayfield's a businessman, got to suck up to him.

That's the mind of a conservative, always thinking "Hey, we've got to suck up to the business executives" which explains Jim DeMint and company at the Senate Hearing.

I swear, they would vote to give JP Morgan the treasury if they could.

June 14, 2012 at 11:47 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "It's called capitalism. harp gets it."

Well it used to be a monopoly until companies started importing competitive products, which has tempered Mayfield's prices a little.

"Mayfield lost you alprova the second you knew he was a republican."

Oh geez...I never considered the man's politics at all in the equation. I am still a registered Republican myself. I do not make purchasing decisions or investigate political leanings in order to determine what company's products I will buy.

I am actively campaigning for the re-election of two local Republicans whom I feel do an exceptional job. You've got me pegged all wrong.

I'm a Georgian, so I have no dog in the hunt for Tennessee's Third District race. It's an interesting scenario there because it seems that people elect the most aloof candidate running.

"Every salesman tries to get the most money they can for their product."

As do I in my business. People turn up their noses at my prices almost every day. What I retail is priced in the thousands of dollars. Cash is King in my line of work. I respond very well to and will negotiate my prices eagerly if someone demonstrates to me that they have the cash to pay for what they bid on an item in my inventory.

Unfortunately, I deal with B.S. artists far too often, who waste my time, but that goes with the territory.

"Should the welfare recipients be given luxury cars because it's not fair that only people with some money have them?"

Given? Not on your life, but have you taken a drive through any of the local public housing projects lately? I see cars parked there that has me constantly scratching my head, wondering how they can afford to pay for them.

"The liberal mindset is staggering."

Well...you're entitled to that opinion, but conversely, I wonder every day why people like yourself stand up for and follow like little puppies, a political party that does nothing whatsoever for people in the middle to lower income classes.

June 15, 2012 at 12:07 a.m.
fairmon said...

Debates don't allow people to really get to know a candidate. They provide a slick talker, trained to use talking points regardless of the question and those that are photogenic to gain popularity. I am not sure but I think the fact is Mayfield is no longer the manager of Mayfield and may have sold the business while allowing use of the name as part of the deal. His dad was the astute business man of priciples regarding quality, value and respect for employees. How often have you seen the second generation owner screw up a good business?

June 15, 2012 at 4:55 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Let's see blondebutohsodumb, where on this planet were you when Barack Obama was being vetted from everything he ate, to where he went to kindergarten, any nimcompoop could have found anything and everything they needed to know about President Obama if they would look for facts and not some ignoramous talking head on am radio or fake news channel. You repukes are a disgrace to this country to be willing to sell it off to the highest bidder - you best be careful what you're wishing for.

June 15, 2012 at 5:15 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

anniebelle: Vetted by the press???? No candidate EVER, has received a bigger pass than the anointed one. You can't be serious.

June 15, 2012 at 8:08 a.m.

Please! Obama is a fraud. Journalists, for the most part, whored themselves out for Obama. My gosh, could it be more clear. Obama is a celebrity president. The darling of Hollywood. Steven Speilberg is producing ads for him. The man in charge of Google is lending his time to help Obama without compensation.

"You're the ultimate arbiter of which direction this country goes"

That's a quote from Obama as he addressed hollywood elites, actors and liberal elites at the home of Sarah Jessica Parker the other night. Disgusting! That's who he thinks should be the major influence in our lives? Sick!

"The private sector is fine" according to Obama. I'm sure it is to him and the other elites who are completely out of touch with the real world.

Obama does not have the best interests of regular, hard working people in this country. It could not be more clear.

June 15, 2012 at 9:07 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

I'm watching Europe come apart at the seams right now. That's what unabated liberalism/socialism does for you. Europe, Obama's utopia!

June 15, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.

Obama simple cannot answer a tough question. I

June 15, 2012 at 9:16 a.m.

Let me do that again. Obama cannot answer a tough question, or a challenging question without getting mad. I find him to be disturbing.

Mayfield should not avoid the tough questions either.

Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter. Don't dodge questions.

June 15, 2012 at 9:19 a.m.
shifarobe said...

LOL Damn right Blondie!! THE SAME SORRY A$$ FOLKS WHO TRY AND CONVINCE US THAT SARAH JESSICA PARKER IS GOOD LOOKING ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE US THAT BO IS DOING A GOOD JOB!

June 15, 2012 at 9:34 a.m.
JustOneWoman said...

blondebutnotdumb said... Let me do that again. Obama cannot answer a tough question, or a challenging question without getting mad. I find him to be disturbing.

I find you to be disturbing! You answer nothing of substance from any of your profiles, yet point fingers and call names. You spew the same talking points as faux, so your credibility is fairly low from where I stand. You try to turn away and devert from any subject always parroting the same ole debunked lies. History is not going to be your friend.

Blondebutnotdumb, I find it disturbing that a woman could say the things you post. Me thinks your profile name protests too much!

June 15, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
Easy123 said...

blonde,

Are you stupid? Or just oblivious? If Obama is "elite", then what is Mitt Romney? Super-mega-ultra elite?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-win-cost-romney-5m-personal-taxes-16488212#.T9s8pY52CgM

Google the Buffett Rule. Obama's policies are focusing on taking the financial burden off working people.

And how can you derive that Obama thinks those "elites" should be a major influence over our lives from that quote? If the wealthy will vote for Obama in spite of taxation/Buffet Rule, it will change America. The rich will pay their fair share of taxes and the burden won't be solely on the middle class anymore.

Toes,

You don't understand socialism. Socialism doesn't equal communism.

Budget cuts are killing Greece. Irony! Budget cuts were also a big cause of the recession in America.

June 15, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
Easy123 said...

tu,

Are you that eager to know what I thought about it? How sweet.

I have made my views on religion known in many of my posts. Or maybe you are too stupid to realize that.

June 15, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.

My statements stand. I'm quoting Obama. They're disturbing and tell me exactly what I need to know about him.

JustOneWoman, I think you feel that if a woman is not a flame throwing liberal, she's not really' a woman. And I suppose if a Black American is not a Democrat he or she deserves to be called an Uncle Tom?

I guess because I don't swoon over Obama I'm not really a woman, huh?

I find you're type to be very disturbing. You need to broaden your horizons and realize that women are not all of one mind.

Easy, all I have to do is use Obama's own words and action to defend my conclusion. He is an elitist and loves hanging around other elitists.

June 15, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
Easy123 said...

blonde,

His own words and actions don't prove your claims. You read what you wanted to from that quote. The quote said nothing referring to "that's who he thinks should be the major influence in our lives". I proved your conclusion wrong.

So you would rather vote for the bigger elitist (Mitt Romney) that hangs around even bigger elitists?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/76972.html http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-14/adelson-gives-pro-romney-group-10-million

Your logic is flawed.

June 15, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
JustOneWoman said...

blondebutnotdumb said... My statements stand.

No doubt. I think women in general are smarter than what you represent. I don't expect or wish for all women to be the same. Indeed, it is our differences that make us great. It is your posts that relay the message that if one doesn't think just like you, one must be evil liberals. It is your posts that constantly deride the President with any debunked lie you can find. I am all for true criticism, but posts like yours are false flags put out there by people who either refuse or cannot see the big picture.

June 15, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.
degage said...

JustOneWoman So your big picture is big government.

June 15, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

JustOneWoman.....typical leftist NOW crowd. If any woman dares to be anything center or right, the NOW Crowd feminist will drop them like a hot rock. TOTAL hypocrisy.

June 15, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
JustOneWoman said...

The hypocrisy is women standing on issues against their own best interest.

Degage, that is your definition. Not mine. Typical

June 15, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
JustOneWoman said...

Jack_Dennis said... JustOneWoman.....typical leftist NOW crowd. If any woman dares to be anything center or right, the NOW Crowd feminist will drop them like a hot rock. TOTAL hypocrisy.

You are so funny. You have labeled me everything from liberal to conservative. Do the names really matter so much to you Jack?

June 15, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

JustOne: I stand on what I said. If you can't see it, maybe you've had your hair dyed one time too many.

June 15, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.
chatt_man said...

JustOneWoman is just that, just one woman. And thank goodness blondebutnotdumb can think for herself.

June 15, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
JustOneWoman said...

chatt_man said... JustOneWoman is just that, just one woman. And thank goodness blondebutnotdumb can think for herself.

I agree completely!

June 15, 2012 at 12:41 p.m.
JustOneWoman said...

I think Mayfield will get elected, if no other reason than the icecream commercials. If that is the worst we get, it is better than what we have now. I do think it is sad that any real candidate thinks government should be run like a business. Or that the voters think that way too. The objectives are very different and the oath to the people should be the most important agenda on these leader's minds. Right now, Scottie probably does have the thought of the people's interest at heart. But after his inability to voice his positions, as well as some dubious decisions his followers have made, I do wonder about whether he could have a clue as to what is in the best interest of the common man.

June 15, 2012 at 12:49 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

NOW was supposed to have a big protest against Rush. Three people showed up! NOW= National organization of who?

National organization of women. (unless she's a republican).

Bill Maher can call women sluts and it's ok. Rush gets raked over the coals for it. huh....

June 15, 2012 at 1:38 p.m.

Easy, you're ridiculous. Obama's quote at Sarah Jessica Parker's mansion speaks for itself. It is what it is. What else can it be other than what he said? He said exactly what he thinks. He is an elitist. He loves rubbing elbows with celebrities and elitists who are lefties.

"women standing on issues that go against their best interests" ?

Pure idiocy to believe Obama, the Democrat Party and feminists work in the best interests of women.

The fact is you believe all women should be liberals, feminists or Democrats. Feminists, liberals and many Democrats always reveal themselves for what they really are, bullies.

June 15, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

you're nasty, noogie. no self confidence?

June 15, 2012 at 2:36 p.m.

Once again, let Obama's words stand alone for all to see:

"You're the ultimate arbiter of which direction this country goes"

He said this while speaking to hollywood elitists and actors at Sarah Jessica Parkers house. Obama is an elitist. You can say whatever you want about Romney, some may be deserved, but make no mistake about it, Obama is an elitist. So, please, stop this ridiculous idea that he's looking out for the little guy. He's in bed with elitists.

June 15, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

at Riverbend? You got someone to relieve you at the fryer?

June 15, 2012 at 2:55 p.m.
joneses said...

And this cartoon is coming from an ignorant blind liberal who supports a president who will not release his college papers or grades or let interviewers ask him tough questions about all his failures. This is another example of Clay Bennett being just another hypocritical, lying liberal.

June 15, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
Easy123 said...

blonde,

The comments don't stand alone. You are reading what you want to out of them. He didn't say "the rich" or "Hollywood", he said you. That could mean voters or fundraisers or people that donate money. You are reading negative when you could just as easily read positive.

Romney is a super, mega, ultra elitist. The only people Romney is in bed with are elitists. How can you call Obama an "elitists" and not label Romney the same? Romney is worth 20 times what Obama is. Obama went to 6 fundraisers and raised $4.5 million. Romney raised $10 million from one donation from Sheldon Adelson. You aren't looking at both sides here. How can you demonize Obama but not Romney?

June 15, 2012 at 4:18 p.m.
Easy123 said...

joneses,

What difference would it make if you saw his college papers or grades?

Romney won't answer questions about his own religion.

Alright, now it's your turn.

June 15, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.

Oh, my, Easy, you're off your rocker. He was addressing hollywood elites/actors. He was talking to them. I'm reading nothing into it. He said what he said. His kissing up to Hollywood is not news to anyone, except you maybe. Yeesh.

Now that I've put that to rest. How about about Obama refusing to take questions after his news conference today? He's going to give amnesty to a million illegals and allow them to comtete in the work force legally and he doesn't think he has to answer any questions? I would say that's an elitist. All hail KING OBAMA.

June 15, 2012 at 5:03 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Yeah chEasy! The big difference is that Romney actually worked for his money whereby Obama lives off of the believers of stupidity.

Where is the rage against the Hollywood elite? They create or develop NOTHING useful for people and yet they have TONS of money!

Yet they're not considered part of the 1%ers you people hate so much. Let's hear your lame ass justification for that!

June 15, 2012 at 5:11 p.m.
Easy123 said...

You're reading into it what you want. That's obvious.

He's allowed to fundraise. You call it kissing up, most others call it raising money.

Here is the deal breaker: Are you voting for Romney?

Romney won't answer questions about his own religion, I would say that is an elitist. All hail, Willard Mitt Romney!

June 15, 2012 at 5:12 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

How did Romney work for his money? And how did Obama not work for his?

Hollywood creates one of the most useful things of all. It's called entertainment. We (Americans) value and look up to celebrities and athletes. That will never change. People enjoy going to the movies and sporting events. That's why these people make so much money.

Who hates the 1%? Wanting the rich (Hollywood elite included) to carry a more equal share of the financial burden isn't hate. It's fair. I guess you want the government to tax the lower and middle class more, right? Let's hear your lame ass justification for that!

June 15, 2012 at 5:18 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Among the celebrities on hand to hear Obama's remarks were Oscar winner Meryl Streep, fashion designer Michael Kors and Vogue editor Anna Wintour, who moderated a private question-and-answer session between the president and the guests. Broderick, who was starring in a Broadway musical, was absent"

That's who Obama was talking to Easy! You need DR. Phil..

June 15, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.
Easy123 said...

I know who he was talking to. But he didn't say "you rich people" or "hollywood elites" in that quote. These people are citizens too. You are reading what you want out of the quote. Why couldn't he have simply been referring to fundraisers or voters?

June 15, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.
Easy123 said...

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201206150009

LOL! I guess I was right after all! You're welcome Toes and Blonde. So much for those comments "standing on their own".

Here is the real quote and, yes, this stands on its own:

"And what we're going to have to do is to present very clearly to the American people that choice. Because ultimately you guys and the American people, you're the tie-breaker. You're the ultimate arbiter of which direction this country goes in."

Fox News is making you right-wingers look really, really bad.

June 15, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

You can't fill your car with entertainment to drive to work every day.

Entertainment doesn't turn the lights on in your house.

Entertainment doesn't spend billions of dollars every year to develop drugs to keep your lame ass alive.

National debt=14 trillion dollars. Proposed revenue from taxing the rich= 5 billion dollars. It does absolutely NOTHING to help the countries problems. It's nothing more than you lazy ass democrats and your envious take on people who are smarter and richer than YOU are. The 1%ers you so hate happen to pay the lion share of all taxes as it is. You're just jealous! Take a shower moron!

June 15, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy, what questions would you like Romney to answer re his religion?

June 15, 2012 at 5:34 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Liberal websites are worthless. You lose!

June 15, 2012 at 5:35 p.m.
Easy123 said...

So you are in favor of more taxation on the lower and middle class. You want to pay more taxes?

You're making up this "hate" and "envy". Do you really not think the rich should pay their fair share?

I know the rich pay the most in taxes. Are you saying they should pay less?

You even think, not just vote, against your own interests.

June 15, 2012 at 5:36 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

You really are stupid. You've already lost.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/06/15/remarks-president-campaign-event

Jack,

Any question about his religion.

June 15, 2012 at 5:38 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why more or less? Let them pay what they're paying now!

Hell, Warren Buffet has all of this "tax the rich" talk coming out of his fat mouth, yet he's been fighting the IRS for years over $1 billion in back taxes he owes!

June 15, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Then where will we get the revenue to reverse the dreaded national debt?

June 15, 2012 at 5:45 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

C'mon man!! the white house web site? HAHAHA! There's an unbiased source of information for ya! HAHAHA!!! You're just a lost cause, It's time for your organic milkshake and tofu snack.

June 15, 2012 at 5:56 p.m.
Easy123 said...

The fact that you would accept something from Fox News and then deny the transcript from which the news networks got the quote makes you look patently ignorant.

Fox News got the quote from the White House transcript, every news network did. They took the quote out of context and didn't include the whole quote. Are you too stupid to realize that?

You're not simply a "lost cause", you're brain dead. It's time to pull the plug.

June 15, 2012 at 6:04 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE A TAX PROBLEM!!! THE GOVERNMENT HAS A SPENDING PROBLEM!!! CUT SPENDING AND GET THE HELL OFF OF THE BACKS OF SMALL BUSINESSES!!!

MINIMAL GOVERNMENT WORKED FOR OVER TWO HUNDRED YEARS FOR THIS COUNTRY!! AN ALL GOVERNMENT ALL THE TIME WILL FAIL!! IT'S BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN!! LOOK AT EUROPE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MONEY FOR ENTITLEMENTS RUNS OUT!! SOONER OR LATER EVEN THE "RICH" CAN'T BAIL YOU OUT!!

June 15, 2012 at 6:04 p.m.
raygunz said...

Faux-Newz,,"who you gonna believe,us,or your lying eyes?" LMAO!

June 15, 2012 at 6:50 p.m.
rick1 said...

Easy said "Do you really not think the rich should pay their fair share?"

How much should their fair share be?

June 15, 2012 at 6:51 p.m.
Easy123 said...

It's not for me to decide. But I think the Buffett Rule is a great idea.

June 15, 2012 at 7:01 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Spend our way out of it, eh Easy? Hell, if that worked, we would be flush right now.

June 15, 2012 at 7:47 p.m.
rick1 said...

Easy, Reports are The Buffett Rule would raise $47 billion over ten years. Obama’s budget would add $6.7 trillion to the debt. So the Buffett Rule would cover less then one percent of Obama's new spending.

Toes is right we don't have a tax problem we have a spending problem. Toes is also correct if Buffett was serious about paying more in taxes he would write a check. Buffett has it set up so when he dies his wealth will be donated. Here is what he said in 2010. "First, my pledge: More than 99% of my wealth will go to philanthropy during my lifetime or at death." Why doesn't Buffett give his money to the government? Liberals want the government to spend everyone else's money but they do not want the government speding their own money.

June 15, 2012 at 7:47 p.m.
raygunz said...

The Republican Party’s Latino outreach website ran a Shutterstock photo of a group of Asian children on its homepage. ROFLMAO!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/15/rnc-uses-stock-photo-of-asian-children-on-latino-outreach-site/

June 15, 2012 at 7:49 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Jack,

You don't understand economics. Budget cuts don't help grow the economy, they hurt it. It has been proven. I posted links in previous posts.

Rick,

The Buffett Rule would help tremendously. And, as I've stated before, budget cuts won't get us out of this recession. The economy is growing because we are spending.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/16/news/economy/obama-budget/index.htm

"Liberals want the government to spend everyone else's money but they do not want the government speding their own money."

This doesn't make sense. Taxes are the governments money.

June 15, 2012 at 7:55 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy, with all due respect. You're wearing partisan blinders.

June 15, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
Easy123 said...

It's economics. It's not partisan anything. Tax cuts will not grow the economy. It's a fact. Review my previous links regarding this.

You are the one with partisan blinders. You want the economy to grow but your solution is historically proven tp be a bad way to grow the economy.

June 15, 2012 at 8:57 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy, I've had more than my share of econ courses. There are thousands of economists that would disagree with you. Thousands. Who died and made you Paul Krugman?

June 15, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
rick1 said...

easy said taxes are the governments money. I guess John Kerry who is still docking his yacht in Rhode Island so he does not have to pay State tax in Ma. does not agree with you. This is after he was caught in 2010 doing the samething to avoid paying State of Ma.taxes. Charlie Rangel, Tom Daschle, Timmy Geithner, and Buffett's company do not feel the same way you do Easy since Buffetts company is still fighting the IRS and the the others finally paid up when they got caught.

EASY, do you pay taxes? If so do you feel you pay your fair share or were against the Bush and now Obama tax cuts?

June 15, 2012 at 9:25 p.m.
Easy123 said...

I do pay taxes. I don't have a large enough income to really know if I'm paying my "fair share" yet.

June 15, 2012 at 9:29 p.m.
rick1 said...

That answer is a cop out. Since you are paying taxes it is an easy question to answer. Are you afraid to admit that you feel you pay your fair share under the current system and can not admit it. Don't want anyone to know you favor the Bush and now Obama tax rates do you.

June 15, 2012 at 9:46 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Call it whatever you want. But when you ask me if I pay my fair share, I really can't give you a definitive answer. I haven't been paying taxes for very long, my income isn't constant, and it isn't a significant enough amount for me to know. And unless you know me, I don't know how you can speculate into what I think or know or even feel about the issue unless I give you my opinion. I readily admitted to you that I do not know if I pay my fair share based on the reasons I gave.

I gave you my opinion of my situation. Whether you agree or not, I don't really care. I'll get back to you in 10 years and provide a more definite answer. And you can't entice me into a knee jerk response. I don't have enough information or experiences with paying taxes to give a concrete answer either way.

But until then, stop trying to put words in my mouth and get off your pedestal. You don't know me. You don't know my situation.

June 15, 2012 at 9:55 p.m.
rick1 said...

And you do not know the situation of other people so do not accuse people who you deem to be rich (what ever your definition of rich is) of not paying their fair share.

June 15, 2012 at 10 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Rick1 putting major beat-down on Easy.

June 15, 2012 at 10:06 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Rick1,

And you do not know the situation of other people so do not accuse people who you deem to be rich (what ever your definition of rich is) of paying their fair share.

Jack,

Lol! Thanks for the color commentary. How is it that I'm getting "beat down"? Please elaborate, Bob Costas.

June 15, 2012 at 10:22 p.m.
songbird said...

Easy123, it's a beat down cuz he's asking u a simple question that u cannot answer. U act as though u are some kind of economist. U want the rich to pay their fair share, yet u don't even know what u would consider to be ur fair share. How are u able to decide there's? Ur posts remind me of a new college graduate. Quit embarrassing urself.

June 15, 2012 at 11:05 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy will be a conservative in about 10 years....after life kicks his azz a little.

June 15, 2012 at 11:16 p.m.
Easy123 said...

I'm not an economist. I never claimed to be. And I answered the question. I said I didn't have enough information to give a definitive answer. But my answer for myself has nothing to do with the issue.

I think the Buffett Rule (30%) would be a fair share. Just because I don't know if I pay a fair share doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about the fair share of others.

I have an opinion just like you. If I cannot claim that the rich do not pay their fair share, then how can you claim that they do?

Your posts remind me of someone that hasn't investigated the issue.

"Quit embarrassing urself."

I'll take that as a complement. Also, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you don't spell the words "you", "your", and "yourself" correctly?

Quit embarrassing YOURSELF.

June 15, 2012 at 11:23 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Jack,

I'm much smarter than that. And I assure you, life will never kick my ass. Your misguided view of college-aged adults is comical.

And you still haven't provided any proof for you "thousands of economist" disagreeing with me claim.

June 15, 2012 at 11:27 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy, unlike you, I'm not into posting links from partisan websites. They prove nothing. You don't think there's dissenting economist's opinion re tax cuts, massive spending, etc? Do you read nothing but DNC and Move-On propaganda? Come on, man!

June 15, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.
Easy123 said...

So you would rather provide no proof? That means your claim is baseless.

Everything is biased to you right-wingers. Maybe it's just you.

June 15, 2012 at 11:42 p.m.
songbird said...

Mr. Dennis, u r right. Once Easy actually starts working, he will see the light once he sees how much the government takes from the money he worked for. Until then, he'll continue to live in his mommas basement cuz he can't get a job with his poorly chosen major. But let me guess, he followed his passion. Too funny.

June 15, 2012 at 11:56 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Songbird,

Once again, how do you expect people to take you seriously?

You conservatives are morons. You make things up and act like they are true. Too funny.

June 16, 2012 at 12:13 a.m.
alprova said...

Look...the issues surrounding taxation in this country are rather easy to define and illustrate.

If a middle-class American, making between 35,500 and 85,600, is forced to pay taxes at a rate of 25% before deductions, there is no justification under God's green Earth why someone making at or above that amount in income, regardless of the source of their income, should be paying a lower percentage of their income in income taxes.

People who make their income through investments are paying 18%, before deductions, in income taxes, many of which make far and above $388,350, which normally would place them into the highest income tax bracket, currently sitting at 35%.

A single man who works a menial job involving physical labor, earning a modest income of $85,650 a year, claiming only the standard deduction limits, will pay the IRS $15,005 in taxes, at the current tax rates.

His next door neighbor, who sits at home all day never hitting a lick of work, earning the exact same amount from qualified dividends and long-term capital gains on investments, again only claiming the standard deductions, will wind up paying $6,075, or almost two and a half times less.

Thus, a man who works for a living, earning $85,650 pays the same amount in Federal income taxes as a man who earns $145,130, who does nothing more physical than counting his capital gains all year.

All income should all be taxed the same rates, to be fair to all. The largest percentage of people who earn much or most of their income through investments are going to be found in your upper income classes. Those with little or no income derived through investments are going to be those in the lower income classes.

What is fair about giving higher income people such tax advantages?

Taxation has always been an issue of debate in this country due to the fact that we tax success. With the exception noted above, the more people earn, the more they are supposed to pay in taxes.

The top income tax bracket percentage needs to be raised to the pre-Reagan level of 50%. But that's another issue.

Personally, I'd rather see a consumption tax replace the income tax. I seriously doubt that our tax system will be amended in my lifetime, because it has become a political football. If we taxed based on what people spent, then what would people have to argue about?

But make no mistake about it; People earning more than $35,350 in income, who earn income through investments, who pay income taxes based on the 18% tax rate, are NOT paying their fair share in income tax. They are given an unjustifiable tax break that far too many Americans who physically work for a living are not given.

June 16, 2012 at 12:46 a.m.
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