published Thursday, May 3rd, 2012

Letters to the Editor

Obama is a foe of religious freedom

Wiping tears generated by Scripture quoters, false accusations of the biased ill-informed, let's get real.

Barrack Hussein Obama is the No. 1 enemy of religious freedom. He's the most pro-Islam president in history. He refuses to host the traditional White House National Day of Prayer, yet hosted an Iftar dinner honoring Islam and recognized Eid-ul-Fiter and Adha. Obama directed the Department of Justice to stop defending Defense of Marriage enacted by Congress. He allows homosexuals openly in the military, reversing George Washington's (1778) policy. He attempts to control hiring policy of charter schools; forces religious institutions and hospitals to finance contraception and sterilization; ordered Catholic chaplains to cease reading an archbishop letter, etc. Where is red, white and blue in the Oval Office?

The commander-in-chief bows and apologizes to Islamists, who are killing our troops because of allegations Americans burned two Qurans, while Bibles are burned with the trash. Elsewhere, Christians face death under Islamic "blasphemy laws."

Thirty-nine months of Obama have increased gasoline prices 84 percent, crude oil 135.9 percent, corn 78.1 percent, sugar cane 164.7 percent, black unemployment 25.4 percent, food stamp recipients 35.7 percent, long- term unemployment 136.2 percent, national debt in trillions 32.2 percent, and new businesses are at a 30-year low. Our country's broke. You can't fix stupid, but can vote it out!

JOHN J. SPITTLER, Signal Mountain

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Response, service in crisis excellent

Sunday, April 15, at 9:30 p.m., we received a call from an 86-year-old neighbor who lives by himself and in a wheelchair, and he was just mumbling and very incoherent. My wife ran down to his house, and I dialed 911.

The Puckett ambulance that Marion County Mayor John Graham has just recently lined up for the residences of Marion County, and to service all of our emergencies, arrived within 10 minutes. Two male nurses immediately performed necessary aid to the patient and transported him to the hospital.

What a relief to know that our County Mayor John Graham not only is working very hard to bring industry and much development, but also to have excellent emergency services as the excellent respondent, Puckett service.

My wife and I will be forever grateful for the excellent way Puckett emergency services responded to our neighbor's emergency.

TERRILL AND BONNIE NEWTON, Jasper, Tenn.

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lkeithlu said...

Spittler, your tinfoil hat needs adjustment. Seriously, get some help. Soon.

May 3, 2012 at 7:18 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Mr. Spittler is parroting distorted nonsense. Even Snopes.com refutes his some of claims. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/prayerday.asp
And, good heavens, whatever will happen to us if we stop some antiquated practices adopted 234 years ago? Perhaps Mr. Spittler would also like to resume burning women at the stake based on the testimony of hysterical teenagers.

May 3, 2012 at 8:11 a.m.
kkemerait said...

So if he caters to Muslims how is that "anti-Religious", when did Islam stop being a religion? It is not Muslims that are a threat to America, but rather an extremist sub set, not unlike the relationship that the KKK has to Christianity.

Personally, I think the world would be far better off without any type of nonsensical belief in the supernatural, after all what has it gotten us but bloodshed, wars and ignorance after all these years.

May 3, 2012 at 8:55 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Look at the history of Islam and how they spread out their so called "peaceful" get along with others religion in the middle east centuries ago and yes even before the Crusades came along. It is a hard sell to anyone who honestly looks at their history of militarism, killing, pillaging and pretend as if their teachings do not point in the direction of violent converting and conquest. All who challenge this need to read the Quran for yourself. Yes Islam is a religion and seems to be one our current President will cater to when he ignores what has been the more important religion of American History. But that seems to be okay for some strange reason in our day. We can only hope that people such as kkemerait can come to realize that one day when his/her/their experience in this life is over, there might just be something else. It is beyond ludicrous to assume there would be less bloodshed, wars, and ignorance if no one ever searched for a higher being. I venture to suspect the situation would be a lot worse. Just look at how wonderfully evolved we have become after taking God and morality more and more out of schools and society. There is still bloodshed, violence, and ignorance perhaps on a higher level than ever. While our government is secular and should be, it also needs to present a balanced sense of respect for people who have faith as well as for ones who choose not to believe.

May 3, 2012 at 10:06 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Just look at how wonderfully evolved we have become after taking God and morality more and more out of schools and society.

a) we have not take morality out of schools and society. God should have not been in the schools in the first place, because we as a society cannot agree on which god or which tradition so it becomes the majority indoctrinating everyone else. As for society, morality cannot be dictated, nor legislated. It is taught from one generation to the next, and is not dependent on belief in a god. Empathy, compassion, love are all human characteristics.

b) we have become more evolved, because we recognize and honor the diversity of beliefs among our citizens. We recognize that gays and lesbians represent normal variations in human sexuality. We don't consider left handedness as a sign of demon possession anymore. We recognize that humans share ancestry with all living creatures, and that we have similarities in our DNA.

I would not want to go back. Bloodshed and violence have been present in all cultures and all time periods, some justified by religion, some not.

May 3, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.
JustOneWoman said...

Livn4life said... Look at the history of Islam and how they spread out their so called "peaceful" get along with others religion in the middle east centuries ago and yes even before the Crusades came along. It is a hard sell to anyone who honestly looks at their history of militarism, killing, pillaging and pretend as if their teachings do not point in the direction of violent converting and conquest. All who challenge this need to read the Quran for yourself.

And the BIBLE.

every single bit of that can be said for Christianity and the Bible as well. Surely you know they have the same source.

May 3, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Mr.Spittler has written a letter that directly contradicts the title he has chosen. Every example he has given is actually a good example of how the President is a friend of religious freedom. Religious freedom involves ALL religions, not just Christianity. I don't know why I would have to explain that but apparently some people don't understand that even today. But a larger issue was brought up by Livin4Life.

You would be correct that Islam is a violent religion. Some take the violent passages in the Koran more literal than others and attempt to heed the words of Allah when it tells them to kill the unbeliever but I assure you some do not adhere to those words. It is very similar to how some Christians ignore the passages of the Bible that promotes slavery (Exodus 21, 1 Timothy 6:1, Ephesians 6:5-6, Titus 2:9-10, 1 Peter 2:18), the oppression of women (1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-12) and killing people who teach other gods (Deuteronomy 13:13-17). There are many more about killing family members that try to lead you away from god etc. So if you believe Islam is a violent religion, just read the Bible because it is a very close second.

And yes, there would be less blood shed if we stopped searching for a higher being. Most wars have some religious basis (Iraq War and Afghanistan are great examples) You even mentioned that many Christians are killed in other countries. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc. are persecuted too. All because of what they believe.

And finally, an argument which I find very perplexing:

"Just look at how wonderfully evolved we have become after taking God and morality more and more out of schools and society. There is still bloodshed, violence, and ignorance perhaps on a higher level than ever."

The United States of American is a Christian nation (60-76% are Christian). That means, almost 3/4 of the entire country claim to believe in the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ. These numbers are staggering. So how has God been taken out of "society"? It seems the exact opposite has happened. And for God being taken out of public schools, I believe that would coincide with the Constitution. If the US government promoted only Christianity in their public schools THEY would be the foes of religious freedom. But, I would argue, public schools have a lot more freedom to teach God now (even in science class) I would also add that the ignorance/bigotry comes mostly from Christians. Example A: "He allows homosexuals openly in the military, reversing George Washington's (1778) policy."

May 3, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.
librul said...

May 3rd is the National Day of Reason.

Celebrate reason - it has made great strides at dragging humanity out of the dank swamp created by the thousands of religions and sects which have plagued our species through the centuries. Rep. Pete Stark of California supported the National Day of Reason with a proclamation on the floor of the U.S. House. Thanks and kudos to him for doing that.

It reads in part: “Our nation faces many problems — bringing our troops home from Afghanistan, creating jobs, educating our children, and protecting our safety net from irresponsible cuts. We will solve these issues through the application of reason. We must also protect women’s reproductive choices, the integrity of scientific research, and our public education system from those who would hide behind religious dogma to undermine them.”


"Christians and Jews don't believe in Allah or Brahma. Hindus don't believe in Yahweh or Allah. Muslims don't believe in Brahma or Yahweh. Atheists agree with all of them." - Mark Thomas

May 3, 2012 at 5:36 p.m.
kkemerait said...

Dear Livn4Life,

To equate religion with morality or to imply that without religion one necessarily forgoes the option of being a moral being is absurd.

There are quite obviously many, many people in this world who are good folks, live in harmony with those around them and work sacrificially for the benefit of other who may be less fortunate. There is simply no evidence to support the idea that morality needs to be tied to religion.

With regard to Islam, the point I was trying to make was that you equated President Obama's support of Islam with being anti-religion, that simply doesn't make any sense. I agree, Islam historically has been a violent religion as has most every other monotheistic religion in the history of the world, Christianity included, and just like in Christianity there are practitioners of Islam who take it literally and those who cherry-pick the better parts and ignore the violent.

May 3, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.

Wait, what, we're supposed to run our nation's military based on what George Washington did? And not even while he was President, but before the country was formed?

I bet I could find a hundred different things in Washington's general orders that we would not want to follow.

Just that is argument enough for me to dismiss the rest of it.

May 3, 2012 at 11:13 p.m.
Plato said...

Spitter said: "He allows homosexuals openly in the military, reversing George Washington's (1778) policy. "

And President Lincoln freed slaves, reversing George Washington's policy also.

One of the stupidest letters I have read in a while.

May 4, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.

Well, I guess JonRoss thinks the way to combat a foulmouth is to be one himself.

I think you might try your own Savior's words on that.

May 4, 2012 at 7:13 p.m.

Yep, you're showing once again why the alleged Conservatives on this site seem more like caricatures than genuine people.

The more you make such statements of hyperbole, the more you show how terrible the right-wing is.

May 4, 2012 at 11:37 p.m.
kkemerait said...

Obviously, the lesbian scientists would fly spaceships to the homosexual planet, collect sperm then impregnate their lesbian partners...the children would then be raised on the appropriate planet based on their gender...

The answer is as stupid as your question....go away.

May 5, 2012 at 8:16 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Jahchild, less than 10% of the population is homosexual. The human race is not in danger of disappearing because of lack of breeding. Environmental destruction? Nuclear war? Perhaps. I would like to see just one secular reason deny gays full rights and freedom to marry whomever they choose.

May 6, 2012 at 7:24 a.m.
kkemerait said...

Here's the irony....in general gays want to get married, serve in the military and will never need to have an abortion! Now, if that fits ANYONE'S agenda, it's the republican, conservative, religious right.

Where's their support?

May 6, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

one is hard-pressed to name secular reasons. God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Ghost, in The Holy Bible, refer to Homosexual Individuals with a certain distressing name/title. Yet, secular reasons would usually only deal with health issues and societal stigma.

There are no reasons of health to deny gays full rights, and the stigma will subside with time. Our constitution prevents the majority from imposing sectarian rules on to the rest of the population. Equal protection under law.

May 7, 2012 at 7:22 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

The Law of The Lord God of Hosts Is Sure and Inviolable!

Perhaps for a believer. For the rest of us, no.

Our Constitution, Without Amendment on The Homosexual Rights Issue, At This Time Does/Should Guarantee Homosexual Equal Rights.

Yes, it does. Equal protection under law. Of course, up until recently, the LGBT community has not demanded this equal protection. Perhaps out of fear of religiously motivated hate and persecution?

May 7, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.
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