published Sunday, May 13th, 2012

Letters to the Editor

Teach evolution, creation as science

In my letter of April 7, I stated that there is no conflict between evolution and creation. I would like to add: both are science and should be taught as such.

The predominant theory of the formation of the universe is the "Big Bang" theory, that all matter and energy was originally concentrated in one place, but exploded and expanded to form the universe (which is still expanding). After billions of years, life developed on Earth and possibly other planets and evolved to where it is today. How could inanimate matter become alive? Once alive, could it develop to where it is today by chance, or "survival of the fittest," as the evolution theory states?

The creation theory assumes that, in addition to the original matter, there was an original intelligent force, known as "God" or by many other names. (Where did either come from?) This force started and directed the evolution of the universe and life. Both theories seem equally hard to believe.

As a child, I struggled between these two theories, finally accepting creation. And both are equally scientific and should be taught in science class, whether or not God is mentioned.

HAROLD CUMMINGS

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Fleischmann shows hypocrisy

Being a Republican, Chuck Fleischmann likes to talk about keeping big government out of our lives. So why did he support a law (CISPA) that allows the government to monitor all of the Internet and take any information that is yours and give it to whomever they please (credit card numbers, phone numbers, bank accounts, anything).

So Mr. Fleischmann, does your hypocrisy know any bounds?

F. DOUG CRAIG

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GOP responsible for debt increases

Bill Clinton produced several balanced budgets, but contrary to what many believe, this didn't mean we were ever debt-free. It simply meant that our government income for particular years exceeded our short-term obligations, including the servicing of our national debt.

The last time we were totally debt-free was during the first Jackson administration more than 180 years ago. Since then we have routinely acquired new debt faster than old debt could be retired. But there is little wrong with that; households and businesses operate essentially the same way.

Government, like most other enterprises, can safely assume new debt if its net worth and ability to pay increases commensurately. This fiscal rule of thumb has been more or less followed, except in cases of national emergency, throughout our history -- that is, until comparatively recently.

For 20 years under Reagan's and the Bushes' "trickle-down/supply-side" schemes, national debt compared to GDP climbed disproportionately every year. Embarrassed by this, Republicans concocted a cover story -- the Democratic Congress did it. But for 12 of those 20 years Congress was not Democratic. And who proposes budgets and has veto power anyway?

And again, who was the only president to ever declare war and cut taxes in the same year?

GEORGE B. REED JR., Rossville, Ga.

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Visitor enjoyed Chattanooga visit

I just returned from your wonderful city on a AAA Chattanooga Choo-Choo tour.

We were all impressed with the beautiful restoration and cleanliness of your downtown area and the spectacular attractions your area offers. You should be proud. Had a great time.

GEORGE VILLANI, Canonsburg, Pa.

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No need to pay Adams a bonus

I am sending Hank Huckaby, chancellor of the University System of Georgia, the message that I sent Board of Regents Chairman Ben Tarbutton on the BOR home page.

My message was as follows: "I've read where there is an agreement signed by Chancellor Hank Huckaby that will pay retiring UGA President Michael Adams 'more than $2 million over five (5) years after he steps down from the helm of the state's flagship campus' (quoting a news article).

"This must be approved by the Board of Regents before it's official. To do this would be a 'slap in the face' of all students in the system's schools and their hard-working parents. I guess you remember that the Board has just increased fees for the University System's schools. Do you remember voting to increase the cost of attending one of our schools? President Adams has been paid well for his services over his career. You are quoted that this 'salary is meant to celebrate Adams' work.' Shame on you and any member of the BOR who votes to pay this to Michael Adams. Any member who votes 'yes' should consider resigning their position immediately following their vote."

ROBERT H. WESTMORELAND,

UGA, 1971 Past 9th District, Vice President of the UGA Alumni Society,

Ellijay, Ga.

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Not all people can use a computer

Since computers came out, just about every place turned to computer usage. That is laziness.

Just about all the fast-food joints turned to computer online applications for employment. I am unemployed and disabled with traumatic brain injury. I cannot afford a computer.

The hiring manager tells me to go to the library and use their computer. There is a line at the library for computer usage.

The fast-food joints also have applications there for employment just as well as computer applications online for employment for people who do not have a computer or do not know how to use a computer. Any place that hires a disabled person gets a tax break at the end of the year.

I wish I could afford a computer. I wish I had a laptop computer. I wish someone would take time out to help me learn how to use a computer. I wish someone would have the patience to teach me because it is very hard.

ANDRE BERTIN

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America is special because of people

If the politicians would take a break, the American people could bust the economic future of this country wide open. We haven't scratched the surface of the booming progress of America. Too many obstacles in the way by current leadership destroying the Constitution to bring America down with the rest of the Socialist world.

I say to heck with the rest of the world, this is America. What happened to pride in God and country? We're breeding a bunch of complainers who get offended and take it to court if someone says anything they don't agree with. I don't have a problem with your point of view, but we used to pull together for the good of freedom and the American way, reaching success for all Americans as a whole. Nobody has ever gotten everything they wished for. There are a lot of things we have to put up with.

I believe America is special because of its people, not its government. We are letting them control, and take our freedoms while we have our hand out. Haven't we had enough? Let's put aside our differences and pull together for a thriving America.

MONTY OWNBY

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I hope somebody reads ANDRE BERTIN's letter and directs him to one of the many support programs available for a disabled person that include computer usage and availability.

May 13, 2012 at 12:11 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Harold Cummings,

The Big Bang Theory has nothing to do with the theory of evolution. The Big Bang Theory is one explanation for how the Universe began. Evolutionary theory explains how living things evolved over millions of years. Evolutionary theory is fact. It has been tested over and over again and everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, points towards evolution. Science has progressed drastically since the time of Darwin and the theory of evolution and natural selection that he first coined has been PROVEN. This is the part creationists don't understand. The word "theory" in the world of science means that it has been tested and observed over and over again. The fossil record, DNA, vestigial organs/limbs, observable evolution of current species, transitional species, etc. all support evolution. No other theory is plausible. Nothing else fits. Creationism, Intelligent Design etc. IS NOT SCIENCE. It is not testable and has no worth in the realm of science. Evolution has all the evidence. Creationism has NONE. There is not one shred of evidence that points to a creator. The Creationist philosophy hasn't changed since the Bible was written. Science gets better and closer to the truth everyday. Science is always searching for the answers and trying to better itself through the scientific theory (experimentation and new discovery). The Bible/Creationism is never questioned or investigated because it would be heresy to do so. How is it possible for anyone to believe that a book written nearly 2,000 years ago could explain anything about modern science? Nothing written in the Bible is extraordinary when it comes to "scientific thought". Couldn't God have told the writers of the Bible that the Earth was round? Or maybe God could have told them that when people got sick, it wasn't because of demons or sin, but because of germs? Apparently not.

Creationism belongs in Bible/mythology class. It is not science. It never will be science. There is no proof for it and there never will be proof. To believe the Bible and ignore modern science is absolutely ignorant. Please read a good science book. Jerry Coyne, Victor J. Stenger, Stephen Jay Gould, Richard Dawkins, and the list goes on. These are scientists that have written countless books on evolutionary theory and the proof of evolution. Open your mind. Ignore the dogma of religion for one second and think with something other than the Bible. You are missing the great intricacies of life and the great journey that it took for us all to even be here. It is much more beautiful, grand, and magnificent than anything presented in Genesis.

May 13, 2012 at 2:02 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Mr. Cummings, I don't know where you went to school, but your letter convinces me you never learned much about science. It is a distinctly different discipline from the mythology you have chosen to believe.
Science requires rigorous testing of theories; not all scientific theories have been thoroughly proven, but they are constantly being questioned and tested against all available knowledge, and modified when shown to be inadequate. Creationism is a folk tale which some people -- perhaps those who find science too difficult -- take on blind faith. Big difference.
Please don't abuse children by pushing them to believe -- without questioning -- things that are simply myths and folk tales.

May 13, 2012 at 8:14 a.m.
LibDem said...

For some reason, all arguments against the evolution theory must begin with admission of total ignorance of the theory. Somehow, ignorance enhances ones credibility.

I'll admit that I'm somewhat drawn to the concept of an original intelligent force with a really bad disposition starting the ball rolling. It sort of explains all the crap that happens.

May 13, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Okay Moonkat keep believing your myth of the nothingness Theory which has never been proven but is taught as gospel. OOOOPS I used a biblical word for truth. Guess you discredit that also. As for George Reed Jr. how in the world do you think Clinton was enabled to have balanced budgets? Oh he was such a financial genius I guess. Yeah right, what did he ever own. He rode the prosperity of...need I mention without shuddering the name Reagan's tax cuts and demonized approach. But what's the truth got to do with anything since we are so evolve according to people like MoonKat and other dreamers that evolution has been completely scientifically proven(NOT). Keep believing the lies.

May 13, 2012 at 11:10 p.m.

Actually Livn4life, it's not taught as gospel, it's taught as a possible suggestion.

Well, actually, to be honest, I think the Catholic Church tried to teach it as Gospel, but Stephen Hawking wrote how he was working on other alternatives.

Still, you can see in any decent physics class that actual physicists aren't teaching it as gospel, and your false representations only show your ignorance.

And no, Clinton benefited from the cessation of the Cold War and the adoption of the Internet. Since ending the Cold War was incidental to Reagan's policies (he was surprised by that as anybody), I'm not even sure we can credit him with that. Certainly can't credit him with the Internet. He wanted to kill it.

May 13, 2012 at 11:23 p.m.
Downtownman said...

Reagan tax cuts, sure. After seeing how his tax cuts exploded the deficit, Reagan RAISED TAXES 11 times to offset the losses. Unfortunately, Fox news, Limbaugh, etc gloss that over if they mention it at all.

May 14, 2012 at 1:31 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Livn4life,

Evolution is fact. Do some research. It is the only explanation for our observable world. Science cannot speak about "God" because "God" is not observable or testable. Evolution and natural selection work just fine without a deity. Science is not based on faith because, if it were, it would cease being science. There are no a priori assumptions in science. Science begins with a question and then attempts to answer that question through experimentation and discovery. There is no faith required to believe evolution because all of the evidence is on the side of evolution. Faith is the ability to believe in something with no evidence. It a gullible and shallow virtue that has no place in the scientific realm. You have obviously not read anything about evolution/natural selection or you would know these things. You have no argument against evolution other than the dogma taught in the Bible. There is no evidence for creationism or even a deity. However, the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.

May 14, 2012 at 2:05 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Great, Ken Orr. You used old discredited arguments against evolution that even the ICR and AIG ask you not to use. Try again.

May 17, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Ken, I would suggest that you spend your energy studying the things that you claim to have interest in.

Start with elementary physics, move on to basic molecular biology, then on to cellular biology, and then to the broader life sciences of genetics, etc.

I would also implore you to truly "hit the books" in the study of archeology and geology, to help you hone your understanding of life's relationship with this planet.

Astronomy also offers an awe inspiring education on celestial bodes and will help out with the often difficult task of grasping the size of our entire world (universe) and how small we are in terms of physical size and place in time.

I find it confusing that so many like you, feel very emotional about thoughts and ideas written and recorded by man during our "hut dwelling" times, and though these writings are fascinating, they are a not reliable source for information regarding the explanation of our physical environment and the nature of the vastness of time, or the existence of life.

You appear to be intellectually dishonest and spiritually/emotionally lazy when you debate that which you do not not study.

If you truly care, then please muster the personal effort to educate yourself.

May 18, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
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